I have...

started this as a discussion hub for the recent problems introduced when Humble Bundle upgraded the June monthly reveal to include Zombies in the COD 4 Black Ops game.

My understanding of the situation:

1) Humble Bundle has invalidated generated but unredeemed giftlinks. Retraders/resellers that have not yet sold/traded these links are stuck with dead inventory.

2) (confirmed here) There are no "upgrade only" editions of the giftlink. All newly issued Standard Edition giftlinks redeem the full Standard Edition game, even if the previously issued Battle Edition giftlink was redeemed and activated on your or someone else's battlenet account. All old Battle Edition giftlinks that were used and redeemed to a battlenet account before the new Standard Edition giftlinks arrived will remain in people's battlenet accounts.

3) The addition of zombies also creates a slight difference potentially in the value of the new Standard Edition giftlink. So replacement giftlinks sent for potentially unused and invalidated old Battle Edition giftlinks may have some added value, which might be a point of contention or negotiation for some.

The issue may develop further as time goes on, but I thought I'd start this thread to both raise awareness and to help others come to a reasonable and satisfactory way of handling any points of contention or problems.


Relevant discussion threads:

1) https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/qovQ9/humble-bundle-june-2019-monthly-bundle-cod-bo4-battle-ed-upgraded-to-standard-battlenet

2) https://www.reddit.com/r/indiegameswap/comments/buk263/question_have_previous_call_of_duty_black_ops_4/

3) https://www.reddit.com/r/humblebundles/comments/buhclf/humble_monthly_now_has_call_of_duty_standard/

4) https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/buh8zn/black_ops_4_zombies_added_to_june_2019_humble/


  • UPDATE 1: Saw a post at SteamGifts saying the giftlink is an upgrade on Battle Edition only, and does not activate the full game without the Battle Edition previously activated on the account. I'm not sure of the veracity of this, can anyone confirm?

  • UPDATE 2: (this has been proven incorrect) According to this tweet from Humble Bundle support, if your Battle Edition giftlink was redeemed and activated, then your new giftlink should only act as an upgrade and requires Battle Edition in order to use. If the giftlink was not redeemed/activated, then your new giftlink should be for the full Standard Edition and is not just an upgrade. It's not 100% clear if this is actually true or not, or if there is any difference in the way they displayed the difference between the two in your Humble Bundle giftlinks page.

  • UPDATE 3: My own personal case and opinion:

Personally, I sent my Standard Edition replacement giftlink to the reseller I traded my Battle Edition copy to. I have no way of knowing for certain whether or not they already sold my copy and are basically double-dipping if the replacement giftlink is indeed a full game and not just an upgrade, but I also have no way of knowing for certain whether or not the old giftlink was not yet used and simply invalidated.

The reseller I traded with offered to cancel the trade if I returned what they sent, and explained their pricing strategy and why they would not offer more for the additional content, which is basically just premised on the cost of the bundle from which the key comes from. I felt this was a reasonable explanation, although I do think the reseller is not fully acknowledging their responsibility, risks, and liability in the situation by shifting all the responsibility and blame to others and I also think it is unethical that they are abusing the SteamTrades review system by ganging up on traders they have issues with. The reseller offered me a choice of a game from a list of their low-mid-tier tradables as compensation for the additional zombies/Standard Edition content, although I declined the offer as personally I was satisfied by the explanation of their pricing strategy.

In the end, if the new giftlinks for already-activated/sold Battle Editions are indeed full games, I think there is a good chance the larger resellers may be benefiting from all this as they will basically be getting two copies for the cost of one trade in some cases where they may have already sold some of their Battle Edition giftlinks. It also depends on how many traders do not send them the new giftlinks and the amount of unreplaced dead giftlinks they are sitting on, but my sense is that on the whole they will probably either be breaking even or profiting from the situation... despite some of the headaches and extra work it may cause them.

As I have zero interest in turning grey market key trading and sales into a purely profit-driven motive and my stake in all this is very low, I prefer not to get too emotionally invested in it and basically don't really care if the resellers are profiting (or not) from Humble Bundle & Blizzard's decision and handling of all this. If I cared that much about it, I'd just become a reseller myself, but I don't have any interest in doing so as I find that doing this kind of stuff on a large scale or from a profit-driven motive is harmful to the health of the video games industry and a step beyond my own moral compass on the subject. Personally, I think HB will eventually just stop offering giftlinks altogether and that they will just tie all accounts to a direct redemption system on each platform as the grey market continues to hamper their efforts to attract developers and publishers to their bundles.

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I want...

people to please try to stay civil and respectful to each other.

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4 years ago*

Hello. Good question. And how much do you think this value adds ?

4 years ago
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ACO, Division and Cod all are nearly the same in the value. I think it would worth 6 key at the very best for now but will definitely go up in time.

4 years ago
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I don't really know, I don't resell keys or pay much attention to the grey market and it just depends on the supply/demand in the market and what traders/resellers/grey market buyers feel is a fair value. I think MSRP on Battle Edition is $30 and Standard Edition is $50, and upgrading is the same difference at $20. I also don't think that necessarily translates to an equivalent increase in value in trade/grey market, but roughly speaking maybe something like one extra TF2 key or something like that... but it's really just dependent on supply and demand and whether demand for zombies is that high or not.

4 years ago
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Can anyone that has redeemed the old Battle Edition giftlink to their own battle.net account confirm if it is still working or if it has been removed? I have read conflicting information on it.

4 years ago
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Update bump (also edited into OP):

4 years ago
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It upgrades the battle edition to standard if redeemed already. otherwise, it is a standard edition copy

4 years ago
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Have you tried doing it yourself and can 100% vouch for this?

4 years ago
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No, haven't tried to redeem it. I'm still trying recover the loss I've got because multiple BO4 I've traded got revoked yesterday.
I can try it once everyone sends me the updated copy

4 years ago
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4 years ago*
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UPDATE 2 (also added to OP):

  • UPDATE 2: According to this tweet from Humble Bundle support, if your Battle Edition giftlink was redeemed and activated, then your new giftlink should only act as an upgrade and requires Battle Edition in order to use. If the giftlink was not redeemed/activated, then your new giftlink should be for the full Standard Edition and is not just an upgrade. It's not 100% clear if this is actually true or not, or if there is any difference in the way they displayed the difference between the two in your Humble Bundle giftlinks page.
4 years ago
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This makes me worried. Screw it, I'm redeeming a copy and testing it

4 years ago
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Alright, Can confirm that I got Standard Edition after redeeming the second giftlink to my battlenet account.

4 years ago
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Thank you for this! >3

So, everyone's predictions were true. We got a second key that we can use.

4 years ago
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Not necessarily... it still may depend on whether your Battle Edition giftlink was redeemed and activated. If it was not activated, then the new Standard Edition key should be the full game. If it was activated, Humble Support is saying that it should only be an upgrade link and it requires Battle Edition to use.

4 years ago
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To be clear:

1) your battlenet account didn't have Battle Edition installed previously?

2) The new Standard Edition giftlink came from an account that did not have the Battle Edition activated yet to anyone's battlenet account?

3) or... the new Standard Edition giftlink came from an account that DID have the Battle Edition activated to someone's account, but it still activated a full Standard Edition game on your fresh battlenet account?

4 years ago
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In my case, Battle Edition Giftlink was redeemed but not activated.

4 years ago
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Does that mean you claimed the gift link but did not activate it on your account?

4 years ago
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Yeah. I claimed the giftlink of Battle Edition and not activated it to my battlenet account. Then my battle edition got revoked. Then i contacted the other party to resend the updated standard edition giftlink and activated it this time to my Battlenet account.

4 years ago
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Well it does answer a question as to what would you get if you already claimed it. But there's another question which is what do you get if you already activated the game on Battle Net. Anyway, thanks a lot for answering one of the questions tho.

4 years ago
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Sure! 😁✌🏻 I'll let you know if I find answer to the 2nd.

4 years ago
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Yeah that would be great. To me and to the community too :)

4 years ago
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Can someone say what is the key's title in HB depending on whether it's an update or the full version ?

4 years ago
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It's simple: If you already redeemed the game from your HB account to your Blizzard account, you get a key for Zombies only on your HB account. If you didn't, your Battle Edition turns into Standard Edition. So yeah, you get the full game both ways.

4 years ago
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Thank !

4 years ago
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Well, this solve the two first facts, of course keeping the trust in the buyers about the activation in battlenet, but now, what we can do it about the third one, the addition of Zombies really is a plus in the value of the Battle Edition

4 years ago
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yes but not much

4 years ago
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Don't worry about it right now. It's value will go up for sure. The monthly just has to pass first.
You will see all these big resellers sell keys again because they strong armed their sellers and they won't sell it at the previous "Battle Edition" value, you can be sure of it. Adding zombies to the Battle Edition is a huge addition(value wise) and it makes sense that the Standard edition will be worth more than the Battle Edition.

4 years ago
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yeah i know about that i was talking in case that the addition it just an upgrade not a full game

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I dunno how you could say that.. it clearly adds some good value to it. People were willing to pay the extra 20$ to get the full game before this whole mess so a Full Game Standard Edition key will sure be worth more on the market than a simple half-game Battle Edition.

4 years ago
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So maybe I am dense, maybe it is this nasty head cold..

But I just got the monthly because w/e and it gives me 2 keys to unlock:

Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Standard Edition

and

Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Additional Content

So using the 'Additional Content' key is all I need to use for everything or I do need both as it seems I would? What is the difference between the keys?

4 years ago
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I will try to explain.

Originally, people received 2 keys the same as you did, BUT they were the following:
Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Battle Edition and Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Additional Content

Yesterday, Humble Bundle members decided to switch one of the above key for everyone, which created a lot of ... problems.
The key that they switched was Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Battle Edition, which was upgraded to Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Standard Edition

Now, the problem is that some people made the first key a gift link and sold it. Whoever didn't sell the key prior to that point, their key was simply replaced. The sold key, if unclaimed to battlenet account, simply vanished because they were replaced at the seller. If the person who bought the key from the seller claimed it on the spot, then both people have 2 separate working keys right now.

4 years ago
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Ah ok ty for explaining!

4 years ago
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What I'm getting from all this, is that we shouldn't trade with resellers. Because it seems we are bound by additional sets of rules, like not considering the trade done until the traded game gets re-traded or sold, whatever it is they do with them. I traded my copy 26 days ago and now I have to replace with a different version of the game that was not part of the deal. I did nothing on my end to not fullfil my part of the deal. If I had traded it with anyone else, I would have an additional copy just for me right now.

4 years ago
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Oh, wow. It seems I'm going to get one of those too then.

4 years ago
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So, let me get this straight. You traded only with MikeC and not the other 3, but the 4 of them are banding together to leave negative feedback to anyone not willing to give away their game? Because it seems Ocelot only traded with okcerS97, but the 4 of them did the same to him. Which also means Malone and the others are going to do the same to me since I traded with him.

4 years ago
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They aren't even hiding this. You can read it in their negative rep. It's scandalous (imo).
Lucky me I didn't trade with them, but from now on, at least I know I never will.

4 years ago
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@Akiraths

look at this https://www.steamtrades.com/user/76561198247950514/search?rating=negative

the result of this shit x)

It's pathetic to see high rep traders do this. I'm blocking them for this & will never trade with them from now on.
They all know what's been going on. This is bottom low attitude.
I understand that they lost stock, but you don't go around doing vigilante bs, acting like a spoiled kid.
There should be consequences for that.
Their real personality surfaces in these situations. I'm glad I get to see how people act during this shit-show.
This helps me avoid them in the future. I don't need to trade with people like that. I will always be better off without.
Too bad this website is a un-moderated wasteland.

4 years ago*
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That's the main reason I basically stopped trading, and just swap stuff I don't want via barter... There's way too many people that have turned this into a business and are looking for every damn cent and beeing super serious and at times even obnoxious about it.
Miss when it was just about swaping games you don't want, not speculation with thousands of games sitting in trader's list for months or even years...

4 years ago
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@limathompson

What I'm getting from all this, is that we shouldn't trade with resellers. Because it seems we are bound by additional sets of rules, like not considering the trade done until the traded game gets re-traded or sold, whatever it is they do with them. I traded my copy 26 days ago and now I have to replace with a different version of the game that was not part of the deal. I did nothing on my end to not fullfil my part of the deal. If I had traded it with anyone else, I would have an additional copy just for me right now.

I completely agree to this. This cannot be called greed, since the people who will target you for a charge back are the ones who intended to make a fat profit from low-balling you in the first place and resell them afterwards. I strongly support that this loss is on them(while who is to blame is HB for dealing with this so horribly) if they were looking for profit, it's unreasonable for them to demand anything for free from the person who held up their part of the bargain. If they would have claimed the game on the spot (like every normal person) then they wouldn't have had their key lost. They lost their key and now cry like entitled kids, this is not fair at all towards the seller (who held up his end of the bargain all the time).
If former keys that were claimed to Battlenet were invalidated, then that would have been a totally different situation !

4 years ago*
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I'm curious. Let's say that the trade was made and that the person that received the key for the previous version of Blops 4, activated it. Now he sees that there's a new version and gets greedy. He claims that he didn't activated the key and it was removed. How do i know he's telling the truth? What's stopping him from selling/trading/gifting the new key while keeping the previous version for himself?

4 years ago
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I'm still not 100% whether this is the case or not, no one has posted a first-hand account with verifiable proof of it being true, but Humble Support has said that if the Battle Edition giftlink was redeemed and activated, then you should have received an "upgrade only" replacement giftlink to your account, even if it says "Standard Edition" on the page.

In this case, the new giftlink would be only for an upgrade of Battle Edition to Standard Edition, and if you don't have Battle Edition then it would be unusable. It still means the new giftlink has some value, but only as an upgrade and not the full game.

4 years ago
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That can't be true while the new key that you got is named Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Standard Edition. It should be a standalone game. It's been confirmed a few times on reddit and here, while HB just tries to cover everything up. (They were literally deleteing all comments in the Steam Group) I know they stated something on Twitter, but people confirm their old keys work & others confirm that the second key is a valid full & separately working key.

4 years ago
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There are also some posts from people saying that they were not able to activate the new Standard Edition gifltlink as standalone since they activated the Battle Edition. This SteamGifts post shows it (but again, no definitive proof either way): https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/qovQ9/humble-bundle-june-2019-monthly-bundle-cod-bo4-battle-ed-upgraded-to-standard-battlenet/search?page=9#70FcWLg

I think the best course of action right now is to wait up to 48-72 hours and see others first-hand experiences with actual validation or if Humble Bundle makes an official statement that is more clear.

4 years ago
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I would take that HB support tweet with a grain of salt. The person that made the initial question has a follow up question and HB didn't answer it. If they did, we would actually have the answer that everybody is looking for, is it a "new game" or just an upgrade?
As so, i'm suspicious that they just don't want people keeping the previous version while selling/trading/gifting the new one, otherwise, why just not answer the guy and put an end to all doubts?

Mind you, if i get multiple confirmations that is indeed an upgrade (therefore, useless unless you have the previous version), i will even contact the person who i traded with and just give him the rest of the game without asking anything in return.
If it's a new game, that's a different story,..

4 years ago
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Well, that's in all honesty up to you, but I wouldn't rush if I were you. All this bullshit will get clearer by the day.
Up until this moment, multiple people in different forums claim that the second key (while first key is claimed) is a standalone new key for the game. There is also this person right here that said the same.

4 years ago
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Yeah, i know. I'm leaving my new key untouched just in case there's some drama. The other person didn't even contact me about it and I MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OK IN HIS END BEFORE ACTIVATING HIS KEY. I do this with everyone that i trade with (since in most cases, i'm going second in the trade).
Now, i don't feel being generous to that person because he didn't left rep for the trade when i did for him.

4 years ago
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It doesn't matter whether they are telling the truth or not. In this case, once they claim the gift link the trade is considered done on your side. There is nothing you can do to break the deal, besides doing a chargeback. Which is not the case here.

4 years ago
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Edit: My bad. I misunderstood your statement. You are right, this here is not the case. They key was paid for and remains paid for.

4 years ago*
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I mean, i don't disagree with you, but apparently there's a lynch mob that does.

4 years ago
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I just hope people stay strong, even if lower rep. Don't cave in and trade them your keys, because they don't deserve them and they are not entitled to them. They're money hungry c**ts that want you to lose, just because they don't want to lose. It's super obvious.
I can't believe they are not ashamed of their practices and how they can live with themselves.
They're accusing people of greed, when they are the ones who should have cut their losses and move on.
You can be sure that if they previously intended to sell the Battle Edition at a (example) 12-15$ rate / per key, they will most likely charge 18-20$ + for the Standard Editions that they strong arm out of decent traders that cave in.

Edit: I'd say, even if you ended up with a negative rep from this HB f**kup, everyone knows what happened and normal traders would understand that their rep is targeted b*****it.

4 years ago*
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This has definitely created an interesting scenario for trading.

On one hand, it does illustrate the risk of being a reseller, and I've noticed a lot of neg reps being handed out by resellers to traders because of the revocations. I can see both sides of the argument here. On the reseller's part, they obviously traded for something and now don't have it. On the host trader's end, it's not fair for resellers to expect the same value with the upgraded edition as their previous arrangement had been. But, it's also not fair to pay for something that you now don't have.

It's not really on the host trader to care if a person is a reseller or not (once you have a key or link, it's yours to do with as you please), but it's also not the reseller's fault that the unused keys were replaced by new, standard edition keys. It is however never advisable to sit on keys that you didn't directly purchase yourself, and so by sitting on them, resellers also have added to the chaos.

Best scenario is that with the increased value of the upgraded edition, that people who traded for the lesser version but haven't redeemed it can offer the balance of trade value to the person who traded it to them. Since value is arbitrary and fairly well controlled by resellers anyway, I'd suggest that rather than argue over it, the balance at this point in time could be the likely differential of around 2-3 keys. Everyone gets something out of an unfortunate situation that way. Or, simply return the keys/PP you received for the game. Done and done that way.

The actual best scenario for the future though is to not be in such a hurry to unload your keys. Let the full monthly drop first at the very least.

4 years ago*
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This thread deserves a bump.

What decisions did you all make in the end? Maybe a vote would be good. The consensus could be used to reach a solution that works for both sides.

4 years ago
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Personally, I sent my Standard Edition replacement giftlink to the reseller I traded my Battle Edition copy to. I have no way of knowing for certain whether or not they already sold my copy and are basically double-dipping if the replacement giftlink is indeed a full game and not just an upgrade, but I also have no way of knowing for certain whether or not the old giftlink was not yet used and simply invalidated.

The reseller I traded with offered to cancel the trade if I returned what they sent, and explained their pricing strategy and why they would not offer more for the additional content, which is basically just premised on the cost of the bundle from which the key comes from. I felt this was a reasonable explanation, although I do think the reseller is not fully acknowledging their responsibility, risks, and liability in the situation by shifting all the responsibility and blame to others and I also think it is unethical that they are abusing the SteamTrades review system by ganging up on traders they have issues with. The reseller offered me a choice of a game from a list of their low-mid-tier tradables as compensation for the additional zombies/Standard Edition content, although I declined the offer as personally I was satisfied by the explanation of their pricing strategy.

In the end, if the new giftlinks for already-activated/sold Battle Editions are indeed full games, I think there is a good chance the larger resellers may be benefiting from all this as they will basically be getting two copies for the cost of one trade in some cases where they may have already sold some of their Battle Edition giftlinks. It also depends on how many traders do not send them the new giftlinks and the amount of unreplaced dead giftlinks they are sitting on, but my sense is that on the whole they will probably either be breaking even or profiting from the situation... despite some of the headaches and extra work it may cause them.

As I have zero interest in turning grey market key trading and sales into a profit-driven motive and my stake in all this is very low, I prefer not to get too emotionally invested in it and basically don't really care if the resellers are profiting (or not) from Humble Bundle & Blizzard's decision and handling of all this. If I cared that much about it, I'd just become a reseller myself, but I don't have any interest in doing so as I find that doing this kind of stuff on a large scale or from a profit-driven motive is harmful to the health of the video games industry and a step beyond my own moral compass on the subject. Personally, I think HB will eventually just stop offering giftlinks altogether and that they will just tie all accounts to a direct redemption system on each platform as the grey market continues to hamper their efforts to attract developers and publishers to their bundles.

4 years ago*
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Bump. I guess I don't have to worry about the problems people are facing that traded the game away since I actually redeemed it on my own account, but since I didn't care that much for the game... I don't think I will redeem my new key I got, so not sure what I will do with it and I am still not sure if the game is like just an upgrade or is it a full key for the full standard edition?

It is not right what those people are doing leaving -rep as revenge because one of their own had their key revoked no fault of the trader, but because of HB. Not sure if something like this could happen again, but maybe the people that got burned because of this change will know in the future that maybe you would be wiser to wait till the full monthly is unlocked before you would want to trade or it just in case one of the games changed?

I've done a few trades myself and most if not all of my trades have been game to game (did one trade where I got a tf2 key for a game) and once I trade (either I go first or they) and then make sure the key/giftlink I recieved works (by activating it on my account) then I call the trade complete. If the person I traded with doesn't redeem those keys and or giftlinks and if they ended up being revoked like months or even years down the line then I do not believe it should be my fault or any traders fault for that matter.

I honestly believe as a trader that as soon as we initiate the trade and give them a key/giftlink that we know for a fact is a legit and usable key at the time of sale (trade) then we should not be at fault. We traded them a usable key and it is their fault if they decided to not activate it at the time of trade.

4 years ago
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maybe you would be wiser to wait till the full monthly is unlocked before you would want to trade or it just in case one of the games changed?

The problem with this is that you might miss the opportunity of getting the game you want because other person, not following that "rule", will beat you to it.
Unless you're saying that it's the resellers that should wait until the full monthly is unlocked, since they're not activating the keys. In that case, i completely agree with you.

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That is what I meant that the resellers would be the ones that should wait since they are the ones that are sitting on the key for who knows how long, where non resellers it’s a non issue since they would have redeemed the key as soon as the trade was finished. And I think In the case of this as long as you redeemed the battle edition to your battle.net account you still own the game, redeemed keys were not revoked just unreedeeemd ones were.

So for normal people that are trading to actually own/play the game they are trading for its a non-issue in the case of a change like this since redeeemd copies were not revoked - this isn’t the same as like if there was a chargeback and then all the keys were revoked rather they were redeemed or not. So in the future if resellers don’t want to get burned they are wise to wait till the full monthly is revealed.

4 years ago
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I don't think I will redeem my new key I got, so not sure what I will do with it and I am still not sure if the game is like just an upgrade or is it a full key for the full standard edition?

That's still a question that is unresolved with definitive proof, but I'm leaning towards thinking it is a full key for the standard edition. If you do gift it to a friend or try redeeming it for yourself on a fresh battle.net account, or if you trade with someone that you trust 100% and let them try first with the understanding that if it can't be redeemed since it is upgrade only you can cancel the trade, it would help a lot if you could post to this discussion with the results to settle the matter once and for all for everyone.

4 years ago
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Yeah I am kind of leaning towards it being a brand new key myself, but yet still don't know for a fact and for me I am not sure if I want to really take the chance at trading it until we know more if it is indeed an upgrade or a full key.

So until we know I may just sit on it, since we should I hope know more before 2020 when the game supposedly expires.

4 years ago
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or if you trade with someone that you trust 100% and let them try first with the understanding that if it can't be redeemed since it is upgrade only you can cancel the trade,

I've been thinking and i've come to the same conclusion. When i update/create the sales post, i'll leave a notice for Blops4:

"This is the second key given by Humble Bundle, the first, Battle Edition, was already activated. There's conflicting reports about what happens when a new account activates this key, although, it appears that unlocks the Standard Edition (all game modes). As so, i cannot guarantee that it will work. By making this trade, you'll have to understand that you have to activate the key the moment i give it to you and if something goes wrong (ex. It's the upgrade and not the full game), provide proof.
You can also make the trade and not activate it/test the game but i won't be responsible if there's any problem. The trade will be considered complete."

4 years ago
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like a joke,the person I bought before wants me to send 2 more keys,this is a fraud and considers this an agreement.

I hope no one receives an answer in this way :/ http://i68.tinypic.com/2mpc0sh.jpg (link updated )

4 years ago*
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Since you just want 2 extra TF2 keys, in your situation it may be better to just return the 3 TF2 keys and use your new Standard Edition giftlink for a different trade. I'm pretty sure you can find someone that will trade you 5 TF2 keys for the Standard Edition giftlink, assuming it will redeem the full game and is not just an upgrade. You may want to wait and see though for full verified confirmation that there are no "upgrade edition" giftlinks and that every single new giftlink is indeed for the full game.

4 years ago
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yes Im a reseller,I didnt use game link and I wrote the same thing but he stubbornly asked me for 2 more keys and said he couldn't send the keys back.

3 keys don't matter at all but it's so scary that people behave this way...

and left me a negative feedback,these people make me crazy..

I hope there will be no more similar events,the change of links of games leads to big problems

4 years ago*
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Oh I see, I'm sorry I got the roles mixed up and I thought you were the one trading the game and not the other way around. It is a difficult situation, and part of the risk involved in reselling keys. Personally, if I were in your situation I would try to keep negotiating something to find a way to compromise on both sides that will be acceptable. Maybe meet in the middle for 1 extra key or offer some other games or something?

4 years ago
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yes but it's too unreasonable to give 2 keys for a game I've traded before.I got new links from many people,it's wrong to make a request in this way.I would tell him if I really used it but I'm a seller and I did many trade.

If I had bought from old trader people this would certainly not be a problem,I'll be more picky now

If I was selling, I would never want a new keys because it can't be the fault of the person who bought this game

never mind mate,Let's not pollute post :) thank you for your answer :)

4 years ago
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It's not unreasonable at all that he asked you for 2 keys (for the extra added value). If you're a reseller, you will sell that key for 7 keys (at least) anyway and get a profit. If you have bought the game for 3 keys from that guy and still expect him to send you the upgraded version(which is a significant upgrade) of the game for free, then you are an asshole sincerely. 2 keys IS a good compromise considering he can sell that key for 7 keys himself and it is HIS key since he sold you that previous key already. Who the fk cares if you're a reseller? You got your money's worth at the end of the trade. They would have been active if you weren't a reseller. HB are the ones who screwed you, not the seller.

Posted by robilar5500:

It's not really on the host trader to care if a person is a reseller or not (once you have a key or link, it's yours to do with as you please), but it's also not the reseller's fault that the unused keys were replaced by new, standard edition keys. It is however never advisable to sit on keys that you didn't directly purchase yourself, and so by sitting on them, resellers also have added to the chaos.

^ This pretty much.
Only resellers are affected by this whole mess.
It really shows the risk of being a reseller. I understand it really sucks, but don't be an asshole by leaving -rep and shit. That's scummy.

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yes I told him I could return the game (this is fair) but he didnt accept.I didnt use links and I made too many transactions on this site.my links deleted,because I wasnt using them.

I don't pay again for something I bought.you are right but nobody wants to pay.

'' but just giving the new link when you already got a valid link'' '' In the future, consider activating keys sooner.''

it doesn't matter that I leave a -rep or +rep but these sentences are very wrong.no such defense can be made.

Thanks :)

4 years ago
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I think it's worth bumping the thread with this new information from a steamgifts user:

https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/z0Xi6XC

4 years ago
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Thank you for posting that, I will update the OP and it's good that this question is finally resolved definitively.

4 years ago
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I give you all my game https://www.steamtrades.com/trade/6XrFN/game-key-and-dlc-key-csgo-skins for call of duty black ops 4

4 years ago
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Closed 4 years ago.