And please remember people, if a deal seems too good to be true? It probably is. People selling BTAs of weeklies for prices of 2 keys/1 key, even less? They are probably obtained through Credit Card Fraud.
Its a new low when people scam a company which is donating its money to charity!
Hope in humanity lost :/
seriously? people actually pull for that crap with charity? :) they rarely do , and if the do they do a percentage that would otherwise be taxes ... c'mon wake up people , does anyone do anything just out of the goodness of their heart? :P
this. they get % for "sales" and they not need to pay any taxes for that % because they "donate" the other % for charity in his own name.
that why there are so many bundles page. they get a lot of money for nothing.
It's hip to be a cynic these days huh? Think yourself cool and all? Sorry, you're boring and predictable at this point.
The guy who started the Humble Bundle obviously had great intentions, and the whole DRM-free + Linux + charity thing just screamed idealism and flew in the face of the mindset of the whole gaming industry at the time. He started a revolution. But hey, keep believing it was just for the money.
Now that it's a company churning out bundle after bundle the charity aspect might be less important, but they still could do like everybody else and, you know, not donate to charity. And line their pockets instead. There are more efficient ways to avoid taxes than charitable donations.
+1 They started a movement that was needed for Idie Developpers and now for even AAA games that are not gettin any love for a while.
"started" is the key word here. Now they are just an ordinary money-making business that sells all kind of indie or AAA, drm or no, steam or no... whatever if it just sells at discount bin/cheap price.
How naive to think that charity would be still there as option if it didn't rise sales.
yes it's % but that % is deducted from the taxes they have to pay ... so they said "hmm , would fools buy better if they see we donate to charity? And why not do it ? because if not charity we have to pay that % ask taxes anyway"
I don't like being teached economics , but please read your country legislation. It's all explained there if you know how to interpretate it.
Every charity donation anyone makes is 'selfish' in principle, so finding better places to obtain charitable donations than asking people on street corners is a good thing.
Also an economics lesson They don't pay tax on the charity donation but they do pay tax on their profit.
yes indeed they pay tax from their profit in my country 16% , but from that you can done 4% to charity , if that isn't more than 4/1000 of your total financial income and exits. Other countries have higher income taxes so that charity limit is higher.
And please remember people, if a deal seems too good to be true? It probably is.
You sure about that? :P
And please remember people, if a deal seems too good to be true? It probably is [true?].
And please remember people, if a deal seems too good to be true? It probably is [too good to be true].
Or in other word:
And please remember people, if a deal seems too good to be true? It probably is [not true].
Thank you, I have seen this go on long enough, I could list a few traders who are involved in the stated above, but it might be pointless, as most people are likely only after the steam keys anyways (Since they don't get revoked), and do not care sadly.
I had this happen to me just yesterday. Is there any way to get the lost games back?
Did the steam games get revoked from your account? I haven't heard of that happening. If you're looking to get a replacement bundle, there's nothing you can do, but you should report the person who scammed you.
The games I already activated didn't, but I can't access the games I didn't redeem. Everytime I try and click on my humble bumble URL, it redirects me to a page which tells me that I have an unknown key. I've been trying to contact support, but I haven't recieved any replies yet for some reason. :I
There is nothing you can do, you have been scammed. You should post a link to the guy's sales thread here so people avoid doing business with him.
I bought it from a steam user I found on ssteamtrades and my links dont work anymore
Go to his profile delete your feedback and do a new one with negative feedback. Also report on steamrep. Everybody should do that. If you got feedback from him you have a link to his profile on yours.
Same happened to me.
I traded with a guy for 2 gift urls Warner Bros Bundle (the price anyway wasn't extremely low to suspect about a scam).
I added a gift url to my humble library and the other one sent to a friend (not added to library, but simply redeemed to mail).
Today from my humble library the WB Bundle disappeared (still in steam library anyway),but both links of page keys of humble order say "bad key" "Unknown Key!Sorry I could not find this key." so I cannot see my products there and my friend cannot activate them on steam obviusly.
I wanna ask if someone who contacted humble support about this problem received an answer and if there's a way to repair that.
Also if is possible, we should make a list of who has this problem writing the users involved with the trade, so people can be careful seeing a "blacklist" of user not trustable in this kind of trades. (not all users who exchange gift url are scammer, I didn't have problem in past when I traded with another guy)
Those steamrep guys are lazy bastards, 90% of scams are invloving keys, if you don't bother review these cases then they might as well shutdown the damn website..
They even refuse to investigate obvious scams, when one person paid in TF2 keys and was supposed to get steam key, but didn't receive it. SteamRep will not handle this, because, OH A KEY!
Indeed! checking someones steamrep is utterly pointless if they do not handle those scammers
Search on forum for threads with the id or nick on title?
It seems that lately they don't review anything.
My impersonator stays unmarked 1 month later and didn't got a single reply.
Well, you can do that anywhere. Don't need SR for that. Also, the way it is now, they pretty much only handle item for item trades, while those are already covered by Steam's ToS (supposedly at least). So you can get your item back in case of CC fraud or anything like that.
SR doesn't really have any advantage right now over any other site/forum. As with an itm for item trade, I honestly don't care that much about rep (as I will get my item back, worst case scenario). While with keys, there is this trust barrier. In which ST currently has a better system than SR has.
thats not completely true. there were cases where steamrep at least marked someone because of key scams. if enough people would report, steamrep would probably at least do that.
same thing happened to my with this guy http://www.steamtrades.com/user/VaSoOo report him so more pepole understand that he uses a bad credit card
Damn, it's scary that Jacqhues has so much positive rep. If someone's rep is that high, I usually don't even bother checking Steamrep.
Edit: I clicked on his steamrep page and I love how there is absolutely no mention of his scams. Wonderful. -__-
Steamrep is now borderline-useless, since they now will not bother review ANY case that involves game keys...
Why do you rejected that the thread in steamrep?Because I'm not scammer or credit card fraud.I bought a lot of humble bundle packs with my credit card.And My credit card was suspected by the site.I bought some packages have their money returned.So humblebundle was deleted by selling the packages.I'm telling you again 'I'm not scammer'!(Im sorry.I have not good english.I hope you can tell by me.)
A not-scammer would refund people, you just remove people from your friends list, set your profile to private and leave negative review back to everyone calling you scammer. This is what you are, you're not the Heisenberg style, you're just scamming people for a hundred dollars or less. Enjoy your banishment.
The bundle provider, whoever he is, probably uses many credit cards to buy humble bundle, then he asks guys like Jacqhues to resell them, leaving him coins. Your bundle must have been bought with a credit card uncancelled yet, everyone don't check his bank account every day so it may take a moment before the owner of the card asks his bank for a refund.
Save what you want to save and remove him from your friendlist... just kidding, he already did.
The reason why they rejected the case is they will not bother review ANY case involving game keys anymore, not because they found you innocent..
Here is their notice:
http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/notice-changes-to-investigation-policy.47952/
PS: you're giving people "revenge rep" which is a against the rules.
So, all you can do is give FAKE revenge feedback to honest people? It's bad enough that you were scamming money that was supposed to go to charity, but now this? That's a new low, even for you..
Well, you've just been reported and hopefully they'll suspend your account soon enough!
I did multiple trades with him too, though he was a pretty cool guy. Bought a couple of bundles. None of them revoked. Could it be because I claimed the keys on my Steam account (I don't own a HB account) instantly after getting the URL? Also, I was going to buy more bundles from him today, but then I noticed that he removed me and set his profile to private and then found out he's one of "them".
Yeah, in my case and others as well, I had bought from him a gift url not just steam keys, and the url got removed from my humble account the next day.
I bought from a guy HB WB BTA for 2.5key and claimed on my account but now it vanish :(
2.5key is regular price right?
I traded 2 or 3 Humbles WB Bundles for my tf2 keys, 1 of those has dissapeared, the others no, i retraded two WB bundles and all is okay.
Try to trade with people with high rep!
This guy had a way higher rep than you do (167-0) ans he's a scammer anyway, so ...?
Ok now i have a problem, that guy gave me a negative review after I gave his mine : http://www.steamtrades.com/user/ChibiRobo
How do I remove that ?
This is not cool ! Everyone will think I'm a scammer
He has high rep because he was selling steam keys, so people who got them didn't know anything was wrong.
I guess Humble Bundle will remove the "Pay with Credit Card" option soon. They had Google Wallet that worked with Credit Cards, so if Google Wallet comes back, they won't have to keep that "Credit Card" option, I guess.
If someone does a charge back or credit card fraud, it doesn't matter if they paid directly with their CC or through Google Wallet or Paypal. The only kind of payment that's non-cancellable is Bitcoins.
Got offer WB BTA for only 1 key only, he had clean rep, 15pages of +rep in profile, 32lvl on steam (i thought maybe he quicksells..) and still his url was removed (Unknown key). Activated 3 games from url and they wasnt removed from library, but still it doesnt feels good to have games who was bought to help charity but then revoked.. I hope only that my acc wont be infected in any way. I will definetly report him with all chat photos.
Watch out for those ***.
+1 i buy Bundles for friends to this person and same problem, and when a friend say to me "i dont need it" i try to sell it here and now 1 person say im scammed, when this person scammed me...
This person are -> http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Jacqhues
I guy sold me a BTA WB BUNDLE for 1KEY to and he had lots of rep to (5pgs) and the code worked for a day but then the next day I WENT TO CHECK THE CODE SAID INVALID/UNKOWN
I don't mean to be rude but if you want to help charity via the HB, then you should buy them yourself, except maybe for some older ones you didn't know about.
finally a PSA about that on here. this fraud is going for way too long now :|
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Jacqhues
He scammed hundreds of persons and put -rep to this persons (include me), NEED ALL PUT -REP to this person, i lose a lot of money, i try to talk with him to fix it (because the bundles i buy to him dont works) and delete me of friendlist, put private profile (typical scammers) and put me -rep.
This person have got 400 games and 100 keys and use a stolen Credit Card, BE CAREFUL.
I got one too, My daedalic humble bundle unknown key, So sad, here its the steam profile
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198056995219/
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Yaminonaka
I think i dont get scammed, well there is first time for everything, and he said in steam chat, be carefull sometimes Humble Bundle page can disappear, what a bullock
yep, what i am more afraid is steam will banned me, oh lord gaben please deliver me form this ordeal, if you need proof i'll just need to upload the chat, thank god i still have the chat log/image
Then its more than 50% your fault that you've been scammed.. If pizza guy comes to your house and says that pizza can dissapear after you give him money and take pizza box, - Would you still give him money ??? Well thats your first time you have been scammed, but next time dont believe sh*t they talk. He told that becouse he didnt wanted to be reported and you believed. Most of them are always trying new ways to scamm, but those ways always are not so smart.
Trading CD Keys is always a risk.. Good Luck to you next time ;)
One question, the person who scammed me (and a lot of ppl) put -rep. What can i do?
Was : http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Jacqhues
Thanks!
Nice topic, I was already aware and avoid all people wich sell suspect HB, I prefer to buy them myself. I'm ok with paying games less then possible, but this is too much....
"Oh Look! a Cheap humble bundle! let's buy it..."
the next day
"WHAT THE BUNDLE IS NOW GONE! SPAM SUPPORT"
if i'm the the support i would say :
"Dude the price is the same for worldwide.. you buy it less than the price? from a someone random? then go fuck yourself! cause you are scammed!"
short note : please people come to your fcking senses who wants to sell something and LOSE money to sell it? isn't it obvious enough?
More legit than you. You jelly or illiterate or blind or just enjoy being as asshole?
Well, too bad Steamtrades is infested with dumb, retards like you hence my neg reps.
What a retard. I don't even wish to talk to mentally challenged scums like you in the first place.
Ah...... You are a pinoy. No wonder. HAHAHAHAHA! The country with the lowest intelligent quotient in the world. HAHAHAAHHAH!!
That explains your inability to ascertain facts and process information, pinoy.
Whilst I do not judge you for having -rep, there is no need to play the race card here, mate. I apologize in behalf of what MadTrader has said to you.
Btw guys what if somebody add games to steam from this refund bundles they gonna be remove from account or what?
Has anyone had their redeemed games removed from steam that they bought from one of these guys?
Not yet.I really don't know what to do.I need to buy a new bundle, but should I wait to see if they delete my games so I can add the new ones or can I just give them XD
you mean after you activate it there is no way steam take it out cuz if you take a time to think about it what could be done about this is:
steam keys used from those fraudulent bundles could easily removed by steam just extracting those games from users library, why this is not a possibility ??
not sure what you mean but i don't think bundle keys steam remove :) atleast not the old bundles
What's most retarded is that Steamrep refuses to handle these cases. Or key scams, which comprise like 90% of all scams. What a useless website.
+1, in many cases scam is obvious, like with these bundles. You got screen from trade and link they gave you. It doesn't work anymore, so you know it's fraud.
I gave negative rep to an user for that reason and he made 7 friends leave negative rep on my profile, now I have 8 unfair rep on my profile. That's why leaving negative feedback is never a good option, even if it's fair...
Those who scam from charity is the worst kind of people, and adding to that they put negative rep to those who get scammed by them, they are absolutely the worst, they are not human being, they are animals
Yeah, I made it about a week ago. The worst part is that people reject trading with me because of that negative rep ._. and if they get banned, I'm sure he will keep calling friends
OMG, I got -Rep becouse I didnt want trade with some kid, but your case is ridiculous.. All comments in your page is copy/paste style (I even bet there's also alternative acc's of this scammer) and all of them is written in damaged english.. I even wasnt able to understand why they -Rep you.. Even if they scammers friends or as they say that you're "Bad player" they dont have right -Rep you. YOU SHOULD DEFINETLY CONTACT SUPPORT FOR THOSE -REP ERASURE. I hope this is your last scammer, GL.
I know, I already contacted the support. BTW, if the guy gave you negative rep because you didn't want to trade with him, you can also report him too.
i just getting scammed yesterday, i pay grid 2 and he give 2 BTA url link to me, and when i want to reedem it, its say badkey
WTF. and i ask him, he say it need to use as soon as possible or will be expired :(
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Dan87 so everyone can see him.
Gelbo, if you did get scammed, please -rep him immediately, and post a link to this thread, in your minus rep.
You should demand your money back, if he doesn't give you your money back, then you've been officially scammed, you can only hope that future people don't trade with him.
You give him Grid 2, that everyone and their dog can get free on facebook and you expect 2 working HIB BTA urls ...
I don't really feel sorry for you.
This was most likely the reason of why this shit happens.
I suggest to ban to all the people who "found it"
I just noticed last weeks bundle the team 17 with worms games one just dissaperead from my humble bundle library.
i got it from this guy http://www.steamtrades.com/user/ShackAttack
http://steamcommunity.com/id/dididothat97
be careful fellows i changed my +rep to -rep but other than that he only had positive reviews.
It was because my home address was changed and i didnt know that and because if you type on the credit card info anything wrong it will first work and later it will show u an uknown key.One guy hade the same problem with me and later i fixed it and know he has those games forever!
I'm done. Not trading again for these, too dangerous and even normal offers can be a scam.
Yes, i receive normal offers on HB and guess what? its scammed tactics used by those people. They even dare to use Fraud CC
Not everyone trading this is a fraudster. I'm traded a few already and everyone who traded with me is happily playing their games.
This Guy is a scammer too cagador1
he took my Humble Bundle Keys first and said they didn't work so I bought another Humble Bundle set and they were used also by him and he still said they didn't work... so I lost like 9 dollar -.-
As much as that does suck, this thread is meant to inform, and let other users inform other users about scammers committing credit card fraud to buy bundles. The person who scammed you is not involved in said activities.
I have thus cheated 56 tf2 KEY, please be careful
He lied to my key. gave me -REP
because i sell for 2keys ppl know me im normal trader :) and not 56 keys a have a lot of then 56 keys selling on steam market others because i don't have tf2 premium :) and your humble games are in your library , u are bad boy !
I understand about credit card fraud but I'm haveing trouble with 3 WB BTA bundle URL's that I purchased myself. My credit card is valid and I have never had any trouble with purchasing anything before. I have even used it to buy things the day of and the day after this happened and I didn't have any trouble. I have the Email receipts for my purchases that include the URL's and I have emailed HB support but the only response I have gotten is that they're experiencing higher than normal emails volumes and that it could take 2-3 days for them to get to my email. Hopefully things work out and I get my HB's back.
Yes, that's the problem, heavy load. I sent them emails 5 days ago and only got a reply yesterday.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/skyEvil/
http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198093187593
Dissapearing bundle
i traded 3 terraria for 3 bundle...
all disappear...but he still dealing with good manner
yeah actually this guy has a thread where doesnt sell humble urls. He is looking for gifts. Once you tell him you have the gift he wants, he offers a bta bundle. Most of these people ask you to check the url to see if it works and tell you to activate it instantly since they know its going to dissapear. He gave me the url, he asked me to check, i was so weirded out i told him ill let you know in an hour if it dissapears. He gave me back my game gifts. I had already added 2 games when i noticed it. So i waited it out and eventually the url dissapeared. I bought the url again from a legit person. I dont know if the games will dissapear from my steam library. But you should all block these people.
I just leaving it here - https://www.facebook.com/humblebundle/posts/619567814753193 . Seems to me that its not fault of traders, but the fault of HB. This guy bought the bundle by himself, but its disappear.
Lucky for me all game trades from humblebundle have been legit. If there is a good humblebundle on sale, you might want to wait for 2-3 weeks after the bundle sale has ended before trading for them. Give sometime for the CC companies to sort out the fraud.
Yeah, this is a good way to know you are not helping the scammer to commit fraud.
he's probably commiting CC fraud, why would it be necessary to activate the bundle in less than 90 minutes if it was legit?
I think these users should be investigated, and banned if necessary
So how can we know now who are legit trader and who arent :S
I mean, ok, if you see someone trading a 6$ bundle for 2 keys he is a scammer but what if instead of 2keys he is asking for 3? If 2 keys are too obvious he will just try to scam you 3 keys instead of 2 -.-"
And I dont know even if we can trust the rep since even people with +100 turned out to be scammers.
This is all fucked up right now.. extreme precautions with HB trades from now on I guess, but I ve trade with a few guys with <20 rep withouth any problem whatsoever, 3 Keys for a bundle, and now I dont know if I could trust people offering me HB even at fair prices..
i guess i have to buy it from my friends in my own country who also play steam games too, that way i wont get scammed
How are people doing this scam? If they are repeatedly charging back their credit cards, wouldn't the credit card company figure it out? I'm just surprised that people are able to charge-back continuously with no repercussions.
They most likely have several stolen cards and buy many bundles with each card. The person who really owns the card notices these transactions and gets their money back from the bank, who take the money back from the bundle guys, who deactivate the keys.
Hey guys, be careful with this dude, he scammed me. I told him that the url he gave was revoked and the next that I get to know is that he deleted me from Steam. Even the humble bundle supp told me that the key was revoked 'cause the purchase was found as fraudulent by their credit card department.
Tried to add him again and get back my stuff, but he wouldn't accept the invitavion.
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Stiffler88
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198070824528
This guy Stiffler88 frind with guy who scammed me...
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Dan87
My Humble Bundle WB is disappeared!
he scammed me too... Stiffler88 and Dan87 added me at same time ( same guy ) ..both wanted to trade... he actually forced me ..kinda .
and this is his alt profile
http://steamcommunity.com/id/repti87/
that scammer tookaway my portal 2 for bta hib .
The best scammer of all steamtrades is Jacques, he stolen me about 40-50 TF2keys in revoked bundles for my real friends and he delete me from friendlist and put me -rep in steamtrades.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Jacques38/
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Jacqhues
3 days ago have got more than 200 tf2keys, ¿What can i do? i need and want my money!!! and there are friends who pay me to pay him for the bundles who have got revoked urls and want their money too.
I need help, im frustrated. ¿Why this person continue in steam playing with stolen games?
I want my money return and he dont accept my friend request, if he dont return my money my only way in the life is trying he ban for steam. He buy games with my money.
Lol fucking idiot :) I give you a lot of hib and those humbles are worked most.You gave 1 tf2 key for one packet.And you sell those packets. You want 2 tf2 keys for hib pack to guys:)He told me had bought for his friends.But he sell those packets) If Im scammer.You are too scammer.
WHAT? I buy to you bundles for my friends and if a friend of mine dont need it resell for 1 or 2 tf2keys, is the reason i have got a big problem because 80% of your bundles dont works and my friends wants their money, so return to me tf2keys now to return to my friends for bundles down work! Was my money! Accept my invite and return to me all MY TF2KEYS.
If im a scammer i dont return the tf2keys to the ppl who use your ILEGAL BUNDLES, i delete all the ppl and buy games with the money of others LIKE YOU, and i dont do it because im loyal trader for a long time. THIEF!.
Return my TF2KEYS now.
¿Nothing can help me with this "person"?
Believe me, im not a child and with my money nothing play.
I send you a inv request, accept it and give me my Tf2keys or part of this Tf2keys.
I dont want to say more, all people are looking the person you are...
Man, don't be silly with all this revenge rep, be reasonable and delete all your negative feedback.
You guys being scammed make sure to report them to SteamTrades/SteamGifts support.
SteamRep is not dealing with these kind of scams anymore Notice: Changes to Investigation Policy
It's basically a GO FLAG for this type of scam to happen even more.
what are you doing? the rep system is for trades, not for being nice or for giving someone information. you cannot give someone +rep, just because you are thankful for 2 lines of text. sorry, KBoomDUMAL, i hope you understand that. people on steamtrades constantly abuse the rep system. if you had a trade, give a +/- rep. if you didn't trade - then don't give rep.
Sure, no problem showing appreciation for some info in a topic, but rep feedback is only for the trades :)
carefully!!
i was scammed from this guy for humble bundle wb! http://www.steamtrades.com/trade/GeQiO/dan87-scammer
my humble bundle wb is disappeared!
i added the man on steam, but will not accept me to solve the problem...
after accept friend request man said "wait i give you wb" but no give and removed me again from friend list...
i attached picture (evidence) http://oi40.tinypic.com/2rdcc48.jpg
People who are trading humble urls with a fraudulent credit card are scums of the Earth.
http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Jacqhues
This guy is a scammer and used a credit card fraud to buy humble bundles and scammed me and the link got revoked :)
I -repped him and he did same to me and accused me of acting like him (frauding) but i am not so please ban him for scamming and delete his nonsence -rep to me . he -reps each one his bundle was revoked from him :(
Hey ST, please be careful when trading for Humble Bundles. It appears a large number have been purchased using fraudulent credit cards, and users are seeing their gifts revoked. Use common sense when trading, and watch out for users that seem to have an endless supply of Humble Bundles to trade with offers too good to be true. If you traded for a Humble Bundle and it was removed, please leave appropriate feedback for the user to warn others.