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GG.Deals is your friend. It's super quick and convenient to check the current values of games, which will help you to keep from getting scammed from unscrupulous traders offering unbalanced trades to newer and/or low rep members. Lowest current pricing is what you're looking for when evaluating trade values. You'll want to stay at or just a little below that.

There is the occasional instance where a game that's been bundled is selling for at or close to retail price exclusively. Use your discretion in determining value under those circumstances. Personally, I use the 50% rule there. Meaning, I evaluate their value as half retail.

Most established traders don't really care about 'going first' any longer, but from an etiquette standpoint, if you have significantly lower rep, you should go first in a trade. When in doubt, whoever is making the offer goes first. Additionally, never accept waiting until a potential trade partner sells the game or what have you, for them to complete a trade. The terms of a trade need to be completed at the time of the trade. Waiting for the trade is fine, but terms must conclude once both parties come together for said trade.

Never trade Humble gift links. All that does is place your Humble account in jeopardy of being locked by Humble for violating ToS. Always reveal keys when ready to trade instead.

You don't work for other traders. If a trader wants you to put in extra work, like filling out their spreadsheets or what have you, politely decline. They are more than capable of handling their own bookkeeping. If they want to offer something extra for your work however, then maybe go for it. :)

Most important: ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS click on their Steam profile link here on ST before accepting a friend invite for trading, to verify that it is in fact the person you agreed to trade with. There are a lot of impostors out there hoping to take advantage of people's naivety.

This is more of a personal observation, but when people blindly add you to "discuss a trade", it's generally going to be them trying to convince you to do something you don't want to do trading wise, and these interactions usually end poorly or are at the very least a hassle. There's always a reason they want to discuss a trade in private and that reason is very rarely beneficial for you. Handling trade business in a public setting (i.e. a trade thread) is always preferable.

When dealing with resellers (traders who buy bulk keys) and other opportunists, they are typically only going to offer you between 25% to 50% of the game's actual trade value. Your acceptance of this may vary lol.

Let's talk about marketable item trades. When you see threads asking to trade gems for TF2 keys or similar, those are scams. Look at the Steam market values and do the math. There is literally no benefit to these trades for you. They functionally are asking you to give them a $5 bill in return for 4 $1 bills, to use an analogy. Not a sensible trade.

One last note: a lot of traders are resellers and will hold on to the keys they trade for for potentially months and years. By revealing a key when a trade has been agreed upon, you are able to guarantee its authenticity at the time of your trade. If your trade partner holds on to a key instead of redeeming it, and later something happens like a developer or publisher revoking keys, that is not your responsibility. The key was good when you traded it. It's on your trade partner if they hold onto it afterwards.

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Hopefully this short guide will help ensure that your trades are always equitable and that you can more easily avoid scams and scammers. Ultimately, the best deals are those where both parties walk away content. Never feel pressured to make a trade for any reason. Cheers!!!

If you see opportunities to improve the text of this guide or add things I missed, let me know and I'll amend the guide where necessary.

8 months ago*

Thanks for your time writing a guide for new traders. Think it should be quite helpful.

8 months ago
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My pleasure. ;)

8 months ago
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Very good guide! I hope new users find it and read it.

8 months ago
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Thanks! I hope so too.

8 months ago
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nice initiative

8 months ago
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Thanks.

8 months ago
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Ha, just when I decided to post my first trade list on here, this pops up. Nice one, kudos for the initiative.

8 months ago
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Timely. Glad it helps.

8 months ago
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Thanks for this.

8 months ago
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Absolutely!

8 months ago
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Great guide! I hope this gets more visibility and encourages more people to get into trading again.

8 months ago
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Thanks Ricky!

8 months ago
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Should have been more careful and read this the other day before i got scammed, live and learn, too trusting sometimes!! But we move on and be more thorough next time.

8 months ago
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Indeed. Sux, but it only happens once, fortunately.

8 months ago
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Thanks for the guide! Can I ask a question? How does trading with TF2 keys work?

8 months ago
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It basically replaces Paypal and Steam Wallet and such. Steam marketable items (TF2 keys, Sacks of Gems, Tour of Duty tickets) are safer because the trader offering them can't do chargebacks.

So, they're used as a replacement for cash. Some people use them exclusively for trading. Others, like me, sell the ones they get on the Steam marketplace for Steam Wallet to use during Steam sales. Or a combination thereof.

People evaluate their value differently, but most traders evaluate their trade value to be between $1.75 and $2.00 (USD). SoG (Sack of Gems) are typically considered to be $0.25 and ToD (Tour of Duty tickets) are considered to be a half of a TF2 key.

8 months ago
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Ah alright. Thanks for the reply and have a nice day!

8 months ago
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You as well.

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8 months ago
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up,helpful information for beginner

8 months ago
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Thanks.

7 months ago
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I like to add: that everybody should use barter.vg instead of trading here.
A couple of points why:

  • best for games for games type of trades
  • more than 2000+ active traders
  • all trades are logged. You can see the individual trader's previously accepted and declined trades so you can easily see what the other will or will not accept.
  • auto sync with steam wishlist. You don't need to manually add yours every time
  • auto sync tradable after each completed trade, so you don't need to manually adjust
  • steam integration: you can easily reach the game's Steam page or see some stats from it on Barter itself
  • blocklist: you can block games that you're not interested in, so others can't offer them anymore
  • you can block traders too, so you don't have to deal morons or retraders anymore.
  • list of matching traders who have what you want and they want what you have. So no more searching through long lists or "anything from here..." messages.
  • statistics on how many traders want a game or have it on the site.
  • up-to-date active bundle listing and free game listing
  • alerts if a key revoked
  • alerts if a key has region lock issues
  • and much more
  • ofc it is free
5 months ago
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Barter is fine, but it's got the worst UI imaginable. Using a combo of the sites is the best scenario.

5 months ago
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How do you use them in combo? I usually use only the rep here and everything else there.

5 months ago
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I maintain both an ST and barter account. I find the combination is better than relying on one or the other.

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oh that. I do the same. I always rep and ask for rep here, and I maintain my trade site here as well so I reach more ppl. But in contrast, I started trading at the same time on both sites. I made 858 trades there and around 20 here

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Wild. My percentages are kind of inverted. It's about 4 to 1 ST vs barter.

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and I started trading 5 months ago :P. Barter is just faster. You can do multi-user offers so everybody who has what you want can see, or if you use the enchanced barter script you can instantly see gg.deals prices as well, or you can make automated offers for more nuanced trades.

5 months ago
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Nice guide

5 months ago
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Thanks. :)

5 months ago
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great guide :)

2 months ago
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