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I know I posted on your other thread but what would it take for HiB4 or Voxatron? Together and apart.
http://www.steamtrades.com/trade/BhHKn/h-defense-griddlcdesura-keyshib-3-whumble-voxatronrecettearhumble-botinculaoffers
Anything for Voxatron? I also have two dollars on a pre-paid that I could try giving to you.
Indie Royale St. Patrick + Humble Indie Bundle #4 for King Arthur Role Playing Wargame Key?
I still have a King Arthur Role Playing Wargame key leftover from IGN Prime trial myself.
... I felt the logical 'Within reason' attachment I put on most of my posts wasn't needed. The bundle as a proper preorder was $4, like almost every single one of theirs, and you're trying to double. I'm after it for collection purposes, not the games -.-. The highest I'd go is $5, but asking $8 makes me think you aren't interested.
Then by all means use some sort of time travel device and buy it yourself at $4.
You cannot price bundles as you would normal games. There is no "it will be on sale again", all bundles will not be sold again (unless it is like HIB which sometimes includes the previous HIB games but this is Royale and not HIB). They are in limited supply and can only increase in value.
If you are only after them for collection and not the games that is the wrong view of bundles. You SHOULD want the games. You SHOULD want to support the people behind them. You SHOULDN'T just want your steam game number to increase.
Your statement to 'support' the people behind them is contradictory to what you're asking. You want to profit for a bundle that was there for Charity. Be intelligent, not greedy.
The Indie Royales are run for profit and profit only. You might have actually known that if you had an informed opinion and took an interest in the bundles and not for only caring about "xXx420Zero420xXx now owns 213 games instead of 208".
Rather funny how you talk about greed when the prices of the games you have you attempt to sell are above Steam store sale prices.
Lets take a look at your thread shall we?
[$ 4.50] Be Mine 2
hypocrisy at its finest. A bundle THAT WAS RUN FOR CHARITY is being sold for profit by you.
[$ 3.84] Half-Life 1
$2.49 on Steam sale.
[$ 8.00] Half-Life 2: Episode One Pack (Includes Deathmatch, Deathmatch: Source, and Lost Coast)
EP1 is $1.99 on sale and Deathmatch/Lost Coast were free through Nvidia/ATI offers.
[$ 5.76] Killing Floor (Key)
So a key taken out of the bemine2 bundle is now being sold separately at an inflated price?
Killing Floor was sold for $3 during its 1 million celebration sale.
[$ 9.20] Killing Floor Bundle
The KF bundle was $5 during its 1 million celebration sale.
You have the audacity to call me greedy while you yourself do worse than I have ever done. You only care about "collection" and not the games themselves, you try to profit from charity such as the bemine2 bundle was actually FOR charity unlike the Indie Royales.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are new to the internet. Forums and especially trade forums are not the place for your personal insults, feel free to add me personally if you wish to make such comments and I will make sure you get told there as well.
IndieRoyale runs for the same reason as the rest. I've purchased every bundle and have them all redeemed to back up my collection story. Read the feedback that I've received to understand how everything I've traded has been well-balanced and had no issues.
You're asking $8 for a $4 bundle. My Be Mine 2 was purchased for my girlfriend and the $0.50 is if they stick the Paypal fees on me, which has happened in the past... but obviously you have no understanding on legitimate Paypal transactions to come to that understanding. Every game I list is based off a clean and fair price value, that is cheaper than what I see anyone else offering. If you want a purchase history log to back up the fact that nothing I purchased is being resold for profit, feel free to request it.
In your scenario, you have a $4 bundle and are wanting EIGHT dollars. Killing Floor key was $6.00 in the Be Mine 2. Once again, $5.76 is lower and the Paypal fees even make it lower. I already own the game but put $14 into the Be Mine 2 over the course of 2 bundles. Neither one has made any profit and in turn was a loss in the end since I was attempting to be courteous and give it to my girlfriend.
As for my bundle copy, I traded multiple games with people and have moved things logically. As listed in my thread, I have the price values through a simple logical formula with which not a single person who has worked with me has complained. Almost every game being 75% off or cheaper than anyone else is going to cut down to. You have no say in what is charitable or logical when you're initial inquiry screams greed and deceit.
EVEN MORE HILARIOUS:
Davicho: "i'm interested in st.patrick bundle...what do you want for it?"
Derpville: "~$8 steam wallet."
Think about what you try to propose before you try to rip people off of their money.
Indie Royale DOESN'T run for profit and charity, it runs for profit ONLY. Please do show me where on the Indie Royale site or any site that says otherwise. Even the Indie Bundle Wiki agrees with me: "Different from Humble Indie Bundle, Indie Royale is only for profiting purpose."
Are you telling me you don't know how to do Paypal transactions without incurring a transaction fee? That backs up my "new to internet" story. Even thought it is technically a sale hence a purchase, Paypal doesn't recognise trading steam games as an actual purchase. People have done Paypal charge backs on steam games they purchased from users,Paypal doesn't recognise the purchase and selling steam games is against the ToS.
The KF key wasn't $6. It was "pay for 5 meals and unlock KF" not "pay $6 for a KF key" it is meant to give better rewards for more generous donators. $5.76 is not lower than a $3 tradable copy and keys have less worth than a steam tradable copy. The whole point for that was to get higher donations for meals, even though KF was $3 not that long ago if you pay $10+ you get a a KF key even though you could just buy the $4 bundle and wait for another KF sale and get it cheaper.
You don't take into account the people who haven't traded with you and their complaints. You use an ignorant biased system. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the games industry knows ratings and metacritic are garbage. You can't represent a subjective opinion with an objective number. Even more so when said ratings are bias due to paid reviews, be they directly paid or indirectly through site advertising, they aren't a reliable source. You seem to place your ignorant biased system over the objective steam store prices when they are on sale. When selling games for Paypal (which violates the ToS of the Steam Subscriber Agreement) or steam wallet they should be valued at their lowest store price, anything higher is ripping the buyer off. You sell your games above lowest steam store sale price under your system, that is greed and deceit.
As I said above, you can't price bundles as you would normal games. There is no "wait for a sale" they were a one time opportunity. It is no one's fault but your own for missing that opportunity so you would need to make up for it. By the way, how old are you to think $4 is a lot of money?
To be honest the only person I am disadvantaging is myself through bundle trades is myself. I basically have every <$15 game I want and I just end up with some cheap game and extra copies of Fortix to make up the difference because I am saving them for a big giveaway on steamgifts.
So, you yourself rip people off with your system for game prices which violates the Steam ToS through selling them, you try to profit from charity and then you try to change it around so it doesn't disagree with your own warped morality.
All I can say is, good luck going back in time to get an Xmas Royale. How is that working out for you btw?
Indie Royale does not make any claim by themselves that they are focused on profiting off of developers any more than another bundle does. The link you throw at me with such pride is a Wiki link with which any section can be edited by any other user within reason. There must be a pretty specific reason why you are focused on that specific website link, when that Wiki was only created mid-February.
As for Paypal fees, the payer is the one making the decisions, not the receiver. I'd like to believe if I told someone to send money as a gift rather than a business payment, there'd be more liability. As I said, I have been stuck with fees in the past, their choice not mine. Paypal indeed doesn't have virtual items under a guaranteed coverage as they do physical items. If someone does a chargeback, it is more open to not getting services easily/at all.
I don't see how you cannot understand the pricing of what was paid. $10 bundle only includes a Killing Floor Key, some messed up graphic novel, and a CD. When you understand that the CD and the novel are junk to me, it was $6 for a key. Literally no profit is being made by selling it with my pricing system. If I wanted to pay more I would, but paying $14 total across 2 bundles and only using one is more than enough that a college student can be putting out.
Your consistent contradictions make me feel bad for you as a person. You insist that even though I paid $6 for Killing Floor that I sell it for $3, when you paid $4 and you want to sell it for $8. I'm aiming for 1:1, you're trying for 2:1 on multiple items... even the Saint Patrick's Day bundle which wasn't long ago at all. The choice to pay for my key or to wait is, again, up to them.
Complaints and your repeated effort to say "Steam doesn't approve" doesn't work when you're in the same boat. I've received no issues at all in any way related to what I'm selling. Bias'd as you'd claim it is, if there was a problem it could easily be left in the thread. The meta-critic score is simply an additional discount on an already 60% discounted price. I don't play most of the games I'm selling and have no value at all to them, I can simply sell it for 60% off or to give people additional savings (much like that of a bundle).
Also, Indie Royale IS planning on having previous bundles go on sale again... but obviously your sources on them are only listed in a publicly editable Wiki. On their FAQ they mention having previous bundles come back for those who missed them. I've also personally contacted them (better than going off the Wiki again I might add for clarity), and was told:
"We are working on a system to make old bundles available so I suggest you look out for it
Scott Reismanis (from my iPad)"
And yet you continue to throw empty comments to try and spark flame. "how old are you to think $4 is a lot of money?" 22, college student finishing a bachelor's degree in Computer Sciences. But I can easily counter-claim and say why wouldn't you lower your price to a reasonable amount and pass up $4. I value the bundle for its proper price, and wouldn't give a single damn penny to a person that I know is making profit off of it. Again, my history of games I'm selling contain no 'buy and resell later'.
Finally, as much as you'd like to throw the ToS around, you clearly don't understand that this website is openly known by Steam and if they were strictly against doing so they'd come in here and process what they want. Even the Steam forums are full of "Games for Paypal" or "Games for Steam Wallet." Once again, be logical and understand what you're saying before you do... it doesn't look good on you to toss information around like you represent them when in reality what is happening is not what you'd like.
It's just funny that all you have is bundles to trade away, keep trying to profit, it definitely makes you look good. Oh and if you ever get a chance to give away extra games on SteamGifts, let me know, you may want to get some more free items there before you give back. Oh and it would make sense that you'd follow their rules and not trade/sell/regift what you've won, and that all redeeming must be done on the winning account. Care to explain winning the same thing twice? I won't be feeding you any more bumps. Keep your low-class greed and mindless logic to yourself. I hope someone gains from the things I point out, as everything you say and do is full of bad karma.
Indie Royale doesn't state ANYWHERE that they are run for charity. Yes wikis can be edited by anyone, but if you weren't new with wikis as well as this internet you'd clearly see the Royale page wasn't edited when I sent you the link, making your accusation baseless.
What you stated is the issue with Paypal transactions and why I would never use them.
Junk to you = item has nill worth right? You don't conceptually understand what the Be Mine 2 was about do you? I myself got the $10+ bundle even though the book/CD are junk to me also and I've had KF for 2+ years. I'll end up giving the key away to someone on my friends list or an IRL friend, not try to sell it. The point was it was for charity.
So, you're now comparing a individual key from a charity bundle to an unused URL which was run for profit which is no longer attainable? It's far cheaper to get the URL from me than it is to get the individual games even when on sale. OH BUT THEY WILL RUN THE BUNDLES AGAIN!!1! "We are working on a system to make old bundles available so I suggest you look out for it" "working" it isn't even a confirmation of which bundles are being resold or at what price, the FAQ states "the best bundles" and a lot of people thought the Xmas bundle was lackluster. Another non-steam indie bundle did something similar, it was <$10 during the bundle time, after that time expire they still offered the bundle but with the games priced their normal retail value.
I'm in the same boat? Steam wallet isn't a breach of ToS. "Buy XXX game for trade" isn't against ToS as the steam trading system ends up being used. Selling steam gift subscriptions for Paypal however is against the ToS. The Steam forums get the threads which offer Paypal locked when a moderation is on, if you haven't noticed. While steam wallet threads aren't locked. Why? Because the games aren't being sold. They are being traded for the games the person chooses.
Seeing as you are new to steamgifts/trades also (registered 2 weeks ago) you should know months ago Borderlands owners were able to redeem Duke Nukem DLC and steamgifts was flooded with gifts for it. To win I entered 15 low entry gifts around the same time to win and there were many more after that, I just stopped entering, I have an unused Parody Pack code in my email so I haven't violated anything. You are right, all I have to trade are bundles. I apologise. Oh wait.. One DoD:S game? OH YOU ARE SO GENEROUS PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO BE SO GENEROUS. As I said above, I am hoarding Fortix/other games for a giveaway which I will be doing on my birthday and whatever games I have in my inventory at that time which I haven't been able to trade will be given away as well.
Enjoy ripping people off with above steam store prices for games while Valve locks your account for violating ToS.
A Stroke of Fate: Operation Valkyrie + a Gettysburg: Armored Warfare key for either the Xmas (preferably) or Serious Sam Lightning bundle?
Where did you get the keys? I am in Australia and they may have regional restrictions.
A Stroke of Fate isn't a key, it's a copy. The Gettysburg key was from someone else who got it from the developer so I'm assuming.....the U.S.? That's where the developer is located anyway.
Also, did you get rid of the Xmas Bundle or something? I only ask because it isn't on your list anymore. ^_^
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