I don't blame HB for this action . They are selling games for use , not to re-sell it...just imagine the situation that you are writing for their support , why you just revoked the old version into a much better one because I already sold it... sounds stupid right?
I'm pretty sure HB will sleep well afterwards and for people who got into this conflict...we are talking about some dollar , not a new house , next time you will be more careful and wait till the other month starting and sell your game then.
I don't blame HB for anything :)
Personally speaking, this hasn't affected me one bit. I only posted this topic because there are events happening due to it, and from what I've seen it's a situation that could be exploited in an unpleasant way.
Admittedly I don't know that for a fact, and would have to try and find someone else who traded their original copy, which was used before the upgrade was announced. Then see what the new copy unlocks - my guess is everything.
To answer the question of
How do they know whether the person who received it has already used it?
"If you redeemed before today, you will have a new key that adds Zombies. If you haven't redeemed, you'll have one for the entire Black Ops 4 Standard Edition"
(From Humble Bundle Official Twitter)
So (Neither have i bought this nor have I sold BO4, this is just from what I understand from this statement by humble), If the person you sold activated it, you'll get a separate key for zombie dlc. Key or direct account redeem, no idea on that.
If you get the full game, then the party you sold it to has not yet activated the game.
Or so it should be. Not confirmed, but It should be like this.
Edit : Upon re-reading, something else I want to clarify.
If the person has very minimal or no track record of selling games on humble (and humble somehow knows this, they probably check email address of redemption of gift link or something) then humble will most likely co-operate and tell you whether the link was activated or not. If the person has a track record of reselling of games, then humble will not.
I had a similar scenario with one of the traders I traded with. Due to my email domain expiring (without me knowing) i sent some gift links on that mail. Later I asked hte person to contact humble for reinstating that or something, to which humble, unfortunately, responded with the statement that reseling is not allowed and blocked that person's account. So i believe they know.
I don't know for sure, because I gave my "new" key to the person I originally traded with, but it gave no indication that it was just the one addition. It seemed very much like it was the entire game given out again - which if you'd already activated the previous key would only unlock zombies, as you obviously already have the other content.
Because they'd already got what we agreed on at the time I was debating not giving them the upgrade, but in the end did so. For them it only showed zombies being unlocked, which was always going to be the case. Had I given that key to someone else it would been interesting to see how much content it unlocked for them. I have a feeling it would show everything, but can't now prove it at this point.
Same here, not clear. So far, haven't seen anyone receiving something that explicitly says zombies dlc.
Humble did say that on their official twitter (and i cross checked word to word). Could have just wrote that we'd give the entire game again instead of making matters complex.
But well, whats done is done. I personally haven't been involved in this (and thank god for that), but I still believe if humble said so, there should be something in it. The person who used the game for himself from his own purchase would be the best off to ask about this and get the final confirmation.
My own experience is that it seemed very much like they handed out two full versions (give or take the first time around) of the game.
I've heard back about someone else who sold their first copy, and then activated the second for themselves. If that's true then presumably the first copy would either be activated by now (proving my belief to be correct), or they would be kicking up a stink - though the latter outcome isn't a given, as they might still be unaware.
If it is correct - it opens up a huge problem for those who originally traded it, as unscrupulous people could seek to exploit the confusion it has caused and get two copies for the price of one
"the first copy wasn't activated - honest! - and is now revoked, so you owe me another one"
Anyway - it's not your problem, or mine, but I just wanted to do some detective work, as I can see it being an issue on this site.
Have a good weekend :)
nothing
nothing - except for some sensible response from users!
As must be well known by now, any unused copies of this have been revoked as Humble upgraded it from the Battle edition to the Standard edition. This has meant that traders who didn't use their copy have been left with a game that won't work.
However - it appears that, rather than just send out a new link for the extra content, Humble actually gave out a new copy of the entire thing. I already traded my copy before the upgrade was announced. It was activated and no longer showed in my purchases, yet after this upgrade was still able to generate a new link. It seems the game was given out twice by Humble Bundle.
So...put yourself in the shoes of the person who originally traded it to a reseller / retrader. How do they know whether the person who received it has already used it? The link previously given is dead either way: actually activated and dead, or plain old revoked and dead. They would have to contact Humble support and inquire as to whether the game was used, and that's assuming that this cock up from HB would even show that information.
The trader comes along and says "Oh! That copy you gave me no longer works. You owe me a new copy" They might already have made a trade on it, and could be looking to get another copy for nothing. You have my sympathies if you are an honest person, and genuinely hadn't used it before the original key was revoked.
But lets not pretend this isn't an unfortunate situation where there is the potential for someone to get twice the value of what they paid / traded for, because it certainly looks like that could happen in what has been a pretty rare mess up from HB. I can't recall this ever happening before, and I've subscribed for years.