I'm semi-new to trading (before this, I only traded TF2 items) and I want your guys' opinion on if this guy is a scammer. It seems pretty clear that he is, but I figured I'd ask and learn something for the future. Also, on his account he has ban(s) on record and only owns Dota 2, and Black Ops 1/2 and MW2 and 3. After 2 years it seems like he'd have more than that, especially if he supposedly has keys for these newer games.
He has no Steamtrades profile/rep, and randomly added me without posting on my thread (which I said "don't randomly add me" on. Lol)
Also, I know that Metro is pretty much useless but I don't want to risk losing something I paid for. I don't care if it's worth a penny, that's my penny. Lol.
2:42 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hey
2:42 PM - xAFBx: Hey, what's up?
2:43 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i wanna do a trade with you.
2:44 PM - xAFBx: For what?
2:44 PM - xAFBx: or what are you offering/wanting, rather
2:44 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i want ur metro 2033 homefront, and red faction armageddon
2:45 PM - xAFBx: what are you offering?
2:45 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm
2:46 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im offering a bit of games, just tell me which ones you'll like and i might have some of them
2:46 PM - xAFBx: do you have a thread on steamtrades I could check? might be easier, lol. or you could look at my wishlist if you want
2:46 PM - xAFBx: do you have FO3 GOTY? that's probably my number 1 wanted game
2:46 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i dont have a thread
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im looking at yours
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but lemme see
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i could offer you :
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: mw3, fear 3 , dishonered , cs go and fallout 3
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: this are the ones i could offer you
2:48 PM - xAFBx: so my 3 keys for 1 of yours right? i'm assuming you don't want to give more than 1 lol
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: maybe 2
2:49 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: because cs go doesnt cost a lot :)
2:49 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but the others do cost a lot :p
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: so yea
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: you wanna make a trade or?
2:51 PM - xAFBx: are yours keys too?
2:51 PM - xAFBx: sorry I'm slow, got a phone call lol
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yes , does it make sense?
2:52 PM - xAFBx: yeah I'll do that. Can I see your steamtrades URL to check your rep?
2:52 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm all my trades rep are on my steam profile
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: :s
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u can look them up there
2:53 PM - xAFBx: I'll still trade you, but you have to go first since steam comments rep usually don't mean much. As i've been scammed before, I don't want to take the chance by going first.
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i totaly understand
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but it doesnt mean
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: that guy scammed you
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: that im to?
2:54 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but u fully understand you
2:54 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i*
2:54 PM - xAFBx: it's just a precaution, I'm not calling you a scammer I'm just protecting myself. If you want to send your key first, i'll be more than happy to trade you.
2:55 PM - xAFBx: I don't think you're a scammer so sorry if I insulted you, I'm just paranoid about it I guess and don't want to take chances since the other guy that scammed me, took about 50 bucks from me
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: wow
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: if i was you
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i was like
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: fuck dis shit
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: really
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: :(
2:55 PM - xAFBx: I was for awhile haha I didn't trade again for at least a year, it really bummed me out
2:56 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: wow yea
2:56 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i understand so oO
2:58 PM - xAFBx: So, if you'd still like to trade (I'm interested in Dishonored by the way) we can, but I'd have to have you go first. Then I'd send you my 3 keys. I can throw in a 4th key if that makes it easier for you.
2:58 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i was thinking bout this, but it might be slower
2:58 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but a better trade then all in one
2:59 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: because you gotta give me most of the keys, u give me first 1 or 2 , then i give you the expensive key, then u give other keys and then i give you dishonered
2:59 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: what do you think?
3:01 PM - xAFBx: I could send you Metro 2033 first, then you send Dishonored, then I send the rest. If you want, that's what I could do.
3:02 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hmm
3:05 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i just see its worth 35$ dishonored
3:05 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: maybe
3:06 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: could you please give me metro 2033 and red faction? to start with, then i give you dishonored then you give me homefront and thell ill give you your cs go and if this trade worked well i could give a free game like mw3 or so because i dont need it anymore
3:08 PM - xAFBx: between you not having a steamtrades profile (which means no meaningful rep) and bans on record, and not willing to go first (which is the rule basically for trading, low rep goes first) I really believe you're trying to scam me. If you'd go first, I'd be more than happy to trade with you. But other than that I guess we won't be able to trade.
3:08 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hmm
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: okay well i want this trade , but dw then we do this on your way
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i hope this is gonna be a good end
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: xAFBx: I could send you Metro 2033 first, then you send Dishonored, then I send the rest. If you want, that's what I could do.
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: this seems fair
3:09 PM - xAFBx: I have +8/-0 rep, I'm not a scammer or anything.
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ur way looks also legit to me
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im also trying to be sure
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but u felt safe with this
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and i guess its a good one
3:10 PM - xAFBx: I understand but your lack of a profile on steamtrades worries me. And I feel now that you want me to go first because if you get 1 free game out of me it's better than no free games. So I'll have to take back that offer earlier. The only way we can trade is if you go first with your key and then I send you my 3 keys. Otherwise, we won't be able to trade unfortunately.
3:11 PM - xAFBx: I offered to send 1 first before I noticed that you and a lot of your friends have bans on record.
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: huh?
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: bans,
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ?
3:11 PM - xAFBx: Yeah, look at your profile.
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: o
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yea?
3:11 PM - xAFBx: you and a good amount of your friends have VAC bans
3:11 PM - xAFBx: http://steamrep.com/search?q=76561198033479008
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well i dont choose what my friends do
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and i just cheated on 1 game...
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: cheating doesnt affect trades...
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i dont see that argumen
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: argument
3:12 PM - xAFBx: Okay but you yourself have a ban, and that shows what you chose to do. I don't really care if you hack in CoD, that's none of my business. But I'm saying since you have bans it makes me weary of going first. So if you want to trade you can go first and then I'll go 2nd.
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ye
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but look
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u go first with metro with is worth 5$
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i have to go first with 37$
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u see?
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: if i got that metro already im already happy since i got something outta it
3:14 PM - xAFBx: I realize that, but I have positive rep (and no negative rep) and you have no rep at all. Whoever has the lower rep always goes first when it comes to keys. Because trading keys is sketchier than inventory.
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its true
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but i have 4 rep at steam profile
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its still something
3:14 PM - xAFBx: It's not a question of monetary value, it's a question of trust. And I don't feel comfortable going first when you don't have any reputation. It's not a shot at you or anything but I need to protect myself.
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i traded some thing with friends
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and some random guys
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: please going first for 5$...
3:15 PM - xAFBx: All the people that left rep are your friends with the same clan-tag type thing as you so I don't trust that, and you can delete negative rep from steam profile. You can't from the site
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: why should i scam 5$...
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im not that poor
3:15 PM - xAFBx: because if you steal $5 from me it's more than $0
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yes but why should i scam it
3:16 PM - xAFBx: if you really actually wanted to trade you wouldn't have a problem going first when i have rep and you don't
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well i gotta go first 37$
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: rep or not...
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i give all keys after u give mtro
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: metro
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: after i gave
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u give others
3:17 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im risking a lot more then you do
3:17 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: sorry but this is what i feel safe at i guess
3:17 PM - xAFBx: You're not risking as much as me because you have assurance that I'm a good trader via steamtrades rep. I don't have that from you.
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its the same thing as i could o
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: just friend vote on you yes
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im really sorry but u should go first with metro
3:18 PM - xAFBx: no, they're steam traders from that site not people i share a clan tag with.
3:19 PM - xAFBx: Either you can go first, or we won't trade at all. That's the only way it'll happen. Otherwise, I'll just go on my way and you go on yours.
3:19 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: then sorry
3:19 PM - xAFBx: Okay, that's fine. Happy holidays. If you change your mind you can contact me again.
I'm semi-new to trading (before this, I only traded TF2 items) and I want your guys' opinion on if this guy is a scammer. It seems pretty clear that he is, but I figured I'd ask and learn something for the future. Also, on his account he has ban(s) on record and only owns Dota 2, and Black Ops 1/2 and MW2 and 3. After 2 years it seems like he'd have more than that, especially if he supposedly has keys for these newer games.
He has no Steamtrades profile/rep, and randomly added me without posting on my thread (which I said "don't randomly add me" on. Lol)
Also, I know that Metro is pretty much useless but I don't want to risk losing something I paid for. I don't care if it's worth a penny, that's my penny. Lol.
2:42 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hey
2:42 PM - xAFBx: Hey, what's up?
2:43 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i wanna do a trade with you.
2:44 PM - xAFBx: For what?
2:44 PM - xAFBx: or what are you offering/wanting, rather
2:44 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i want ur metro 2033 homefront, and red faction armageddon
2:45 PM - xAFBx: what are you offering?
2:45 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm
2:46 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im offering a bit of games, just tell me which ones you'll like and i might have some of them
2:46 PM - xAFBx: do you have a thread on steamtrades I could check? might be easier, lol. or you could look at my wishlist if you want
2:46 PM - xAFBx: do you have FO3 GOTY? that's probably my number 1 wanted game
2:46 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i dont have a thread
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im looking at yours
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but lemme see
2:47 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i could offer you :
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: mw3, fear 3 , dishonered , cs go and fallout 3
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: this are the ones i could offer you
2:48 PM - xAFBx: so my 3 keys for 1 of yours right? i'm assuming you don't want to give more than 1 lol
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm
2:48 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: maybe 2
2:49 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: because cs go doesnt cost a lot :)
2:49 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but the others do cost a lot :p
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: so yea
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: you wanna make a trade or?
2:51 PM - xAFBx: are yours keys too?
2:51 PM - xAFBx: sorry I'm slow, got a phone call lol
2:51 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yes , does it make sense?
2:52 PM - xAFBx: yeah I'll do that. Can I see your steamtrades URL to check your rep?
2:52 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: uuhm all my trades rep are on my steam profile
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: :s
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u can look them up there
2:53 PM - xAFBx: I'll still trade you, but you have to go first since steam comments rep usually don't mean much. As i've been scammed before, I don't want to take the chance by going first.
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i totaly understand
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but it doesnt mean
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: that guy scammed you
2:53 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: that im to?
2:54 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but u fully understand you
2:54 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i*
2:54 PM - xAFBx: it's just a precaution, I'm not calling you a scammer I'm just protecting myself. If you want to send your key first, i'll be more than happy to trade you.
2:55 PM - xAFBx: I don't think you're a scammer so sorry if I insulted you, I'm just paranoid about it I guess and don't want to take chances since the other guy that scammed me, took about 50 bucks from me
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: wow
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: if i was you
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i was like
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: fuck dis shit
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: really
2:55 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: :(
2:55 PM - xAFBx: I was for awhile haha I didn't trade again for at least a year, it really bummed me out
2:56 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: wow yea
2:56 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i understand so oO
2:58 PM - xAFBx: So, if you'd still like to trade (I'm interested in Dishonored by the way) we can, but I'd have to have you go first. Then I'd send you my 3 keys. I can throw in a 4th key if that makes it easier for you.
2:58 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i was thinking bout this, but it might be slower
2:58 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but a better trade then all in one
2:59 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: because you gotta give me most of the keys, u give me first 1 or 2 , then i give you the expensive key, then u give other keys and then i give you dishonered
2:59 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: what do you think?
3:01 PM - xAFBx: I could send you Metro 2033 first, then you send Dishonored, then I send the rest. If you want, that's what I could do.
3:02 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hmm
3:05 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i just see its worth 35$ dishonored
3:05 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: maybe
3:06 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: could you please give me metro 2033 and red faction? to start with, then i give you dishonored then you give me homefront and thell ill give you your cs go and if this trade worked well i could give a free game like mw3 or so because i dont need it anymore
3:08 PM - xAFBx: between you not having a steamtrades profile (which means no meaningful rep) and bans on record, and not willing to go first (which is the rule basically for trading, low rep goes first) I really believe you're trying to scam me. If you'd go first, I'd be more than happy to trade with you. But other than that I guess we won't be able to trade.
3:08 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: hmm
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: okay well i want this trade , but dw then we do this on your way
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i hope this is gonna be a good end
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: xAFBx: I could send you Metro 2033 first, then you send Dishonored, then I send the rest. If you want, that's what I could do.
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: this seems fair
3:09 PM - xAFBx: I have +8/-0 rep, I'm not a scammer or anything.
3:09 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ur way looks also legit to me
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im also trying to be sure
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but u felt safe with this
3:10 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and i guess its a good one
3:10 PM - xAFBx: I understand but your lack of a profile on steamtrades worries me. And I feel now that you want me to go first because if you get 1 free game out of me it's better than no free games. So I'll have to take back that offer earlier. The only way we can trade is if you go first with your key and then I send you my 3 keys. Otherwise, we won't be able to trade unfortunately.
3:11 PM - xAFBx: I offered to send 1 first before I noticed that you and a lot of your friends have bans on record.
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: huh?
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: bans,
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ?
3:11 PM - xAFBx: Yeah, look at your profile.
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: o
3:11 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yea?
3:11 PM - xAFBx: you and a good amount of your friends have VAC bans
3:11 PM - xAFBx: http://steamrep.com/search?q=76561198033479008
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well i dont choose what my friends do
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and i just cheated on 1 game...
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: cheating doesnt affect trades...
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i dont see that argumen
3:12 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: argument
3:12 PM - xAFBx: Okay but you yourself have a ban, and that shows what you chose to do. I don't really care if you hack in CoD, that's none of my business. But I'm saying since you have bans it makes me weary of going first. So if you want to trade you can go first and then I'll go 2nd.
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: ye
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but look
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u go first with metro with is worth 5$
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i have to go first with 37$
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u see?
3:13 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: if i got that metro already im already happy since i got something outta it
3:14 PM - xAFBx: I realize that, but I have positive rep (and no negative rep) and you have no rep at all. Whoever has the lower rep always goes first when it comes to keys. Because trading keys is sketchier than inventory.
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its true
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: but i have 4 rep at steam profile
3:14 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its still something
3:14 PM - xAFBx: It's not a question of monetary value, it's a question of trust. And I don't feel comfortable going first when you don't have any reputation. It's not a shot at you or anything but I need to protect myself.
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i traded some thing with friends
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: and some random guys
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: please going first for 5$...
3:15 PM - xAFBx: All the people that left rep are your friends with the same clan-tag type thing as you so I don't trust that, and you can delete negative rep from steam profile. You can't from the site
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: why should i scam 5$...
3:15 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im not that poor
3:15 PM - xAFBx: because if you steal $5 from me it's more than $0
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: yes but why should i scam it
3:16 PM - xAFBx: if you really actually wanted to trade you wouldn't have a problem going first when i have rep and you don't
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well i gotta go first 37$
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: rep or not...
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: i give all keys after u give mtro
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: metro
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: after i gave
3:16 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: u give others
3:17 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im risking a lot more then you do
3:17 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: sorry but this is what i feel safe at i guess
3:17 PM - xAFBx: You're not risking as much as me because you have assurance that I'm a good trader via steamtrades rep. I don't have that from you.
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: well
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: its the same thing as i could o
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: just friend vote on you yes
3:18 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: im really sorry but u should go first with metro
3:18 PM - xAFBx: no, they're steam traders from that site not people i share a clan tag with.
3:19 PM - xAFBx: Either you can go first, or we won't trade at all. That's the only way it'll happen. Otherwise, I'll just go on my way and you go on yours.
3:19 PM - Pr!Me' Kevin: then sorry
3:19 PM - xAFBx: Okay, that's fine. Happy holidays. If you change your mind you can contact me again.