After getting scammed 1 TF2 key from http://www.steamtrades.com/user/CrayZee09 (yes, 1 key is not a big deal but other people had lost more than me and I need to do this so other people could know and stay away) the guy blocked me. Since I was being careless and not taking any chat log snapshots I guess all I have is my words and my SteamTrades reputations, but please read this through guys.

After a couple day of no response from the guy I knew I was scammed, so I dig up a bit about the guy to see anything I can do and I found out a couple of interested things, but first below is the guy SteamRep information:


| steamname: CrayZee #Gaben-Blessed
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:65021841
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198090309411
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/crayzee09
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198090309411


As you guy can see in his SteamTrades Profile there are a lot of +REP, some of them are even from high reputation traders in SteamTrades. There are a couple of -REP that he explained to me that the code have some problem and he will contact support to get it resolve (and then blocked me). So I guess it his way to gain people trust by having small trade done for getting +REP and then attempt scamming one big trade.

Since I was looking for several Nvidia F2P Bundle codes I went to Buy, Sell or Trade Board on Nvidia Forum and I contacted him on there (his Thread: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/764006/). After getting scammed I still in need for those codes so I get back there try to see if anyone else selling that and I happen to see another guy getting scammed (https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/767085/) by this guy - http://www.steamtrades.com/user/SaintHoria, SteamRep information below (having some -REP too):


| steamname: 32DedDoges
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:37520360
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198035306448
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/hashlel
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198035306448


And you know what, the first one to REP him on his SteamTrades Profile is the one that scammed me (CrayZee09), which make me suspect that these could be mole accounts of one person (or at least 2 scammers working together), so I dig up a bit and found two proofs that could back up my statement:

Proof #1: In the SaintHoria guy SteamTrades Profile (http://www.steamtrades.com/user/SaintHoria) there is a scammed victim getting scammed a couple TF2 keys just a couple hours ago (I quote: "DONT!!! Trust Him! He Scamed 9 Man Co Keys from me, instead of giving me my Offered Item, he Blocked me! Again.. DONT!!!! TRUST HIM! I talked to the Steam support, i hope this stupid guy will be kicked out of Steam ASAP!") and I look in to the CrayZee09 guy Inventory to see if he still have my 1 TF2 key I traded him (yes he only have that single TF2 key after I traded him mine) and I see some of those keys which I strongly believed is from the guy who got scammed: http://i.imgur.com/uumn7Ek.png (yeah what are the odds...)

Proof #2: They both aim for the Buy, Sell or Trade Board on Nvidia Forum (to having a non Steam trading - mostly just those Nvidia F2P Bundles codes - which make the other people have to go first with keys, gifts, Paypal, etc and getting scammed). Same place, same strategy.

Which lead me to strongly believed that those 2 account a either each other mole (more likely) or 2 scammers. There might be more mole in this scamming network (who know). So you guy can either trust me and stay away from these account or try your luck with them. Thanks for reading this.

EDIT: btw he just revenge -REP me.

TL; DR - 2 scammers appear to be mole accounts, doing small trade for +REP, scamming big trade. Traded the scammed items to each other accounts (or maybe more).


UPDATED: mole #3 detected (highly ALERT): http://www.steamtrades.com/user/RNJesus, still doing the same method as usual (http://www.steamtrades.com/trade/Qb8P9/h-warface-hon-path-of-exile-50-codes-watchdogs-uplay-key-w-tf2csgo-keys). Fake REP+ from both CrayZee and SaintHoria (a.k.a mole #1 and mole #2, read above) and just scammed a guy. SteamTrades.com Profile screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/oGSXDnK.png

His mole #3 SteamRep.com information is below:


| steamname: SteakSmart
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:44802686
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049871100
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198049871100


After scammed the guy, RNJesus quickly change his avatar and his Steam name to SteakSmart and pop up a new Nvidia Trading Forum Thread here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/769439/buy-sell-or-trade/-wts-poe-hon-warface-50-amp-more-w-tf2-cs-go-keys/ - Screen Snapshot Backup here: http://i.imgur.com/YCOiXuA.png

The old Thread of RNJesus in Nvidia Trading Forum is here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/768969/buy-sell-or-trade/-h-warface-poh-hon-50-codes-watch_dogs-uplay-key-cod-bo2-steamkey-w-tf2-cs-go-keys/ - Screen Snapshot Backup here: http://i.imgur.com/iauGOJD.png - funny how the Forum Name he use is SaintHorhe (mole #2 name is SaintHoria).

The pattern of his trade is very similar, both the one in SteamTrades.com or Nvidia Trading Forum have the same amount of texts, lines, etc, so it's very easy to notice if he has another mole (or not if he already read this post). For example the most recent SteamTrades.com thread http://i.imgur.com/LDVmpfe.png (you guy can compare it to other things I have posted to get what I meant).

TL; DR - new mole, same guy, same way.

9 years ago*

So... I wrote about scammers and then I RNGod give me more than 4 bilion Negative? 10/10 would write again.

9 years ago
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Omg your negative rep oo.

9 years ago
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bump

9 years ago
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That guy is indeed a scammer and i wish steam would do something about scammers. Sadly they are not :/

9 years ago
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Sadly this is a a Non-Steam to Steam trade, which is really hard for report it properly. The best anyone could do is take snapshot at the chat logs and provide them to SteamRep.com

9 years ago
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If you want to know, saint horia is not me, we could just talk both, we both play same games. you accuse me for fake scamming and i got -reps for nothing. thank you. nice -rep btw

You need your key back? i'll give you your key back. just fyi, i don't try to scam anyone, you are just trying to be a jerk with me

9 years ago
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"i don't try to scam anyone, you are just trying to be a jerk with me"

You saw it here first ladies and gentlemen... What a piece of shit!

Also look who i found!
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2eq5lwz.jpg

9 years ago
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while you're at it, give me back my 2 csgo keys asshole. fucking scammer.

haha thanks for the giving me negative rep

9 years ago*
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Kinda funny how he made his profile private and all now.. Someone bring me the popcorn!

9 years ago
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Here: Popcorn
Costs 1 ref.

Haha joke

9 years ago
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I heard that Crayzee is trading refs. You just have to give him some keys to get the free ones ;)

9 years ago
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Bump. That's one hell of a -rep you got there, how did it get so high?!

9 years ago
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Steamtrader is an evil misstress i guess.

9 years ago
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Well, if you use a 32-bit representation (which is the most commom way to represent an integer), 4294967286 equals -10 in binary. Maybe this site has a bug with it.

9 years ago
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He doesn't have any downvotes on his profile though. It's pristine. Very strange.

9 years ago
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Bump for bumpiness.

9 years ago
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UPDATED!!!

9 years ago
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Bump

9 years ago
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surVfate is there anything you can do to get rid of your negative ? thats sick dude

9 years ago
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I guess I could send a ticket to the mod asking for help. But I'm kinda busy lately so I didn't got time for that yet.

9 years ago
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Bump!

9 years ago
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Closed 6 years ago.