Sticky: Spam and Suspensions

2,417 Comments - Created by thejadefalcon (+98/-1) 2 years ago

Aren't you all fed up with sights like this becoming more and more common? So am I. Therefore, this is a warning. Do not open or leave open more than two trading threads at once, especially for the same thing. Do not "invisibly" bump your thread every two minutes. I have begun suspending and I am not giving you just a light slap on the wrist for this amount of spam. Now, I'm more of an SG mod, I'm not good with STrades, so, please, feel free to point me towards anyone who needs it, preferably with evidence. Might as well use this thread for it. This is going to stop.

Update: This problem should never have been allowed to get to this point (and I likely would have been okay with it if the bumps were at least staggered rather than bumping six threads at once), so I'm probably going to seem overly harsh to some of you, cracking down on everything severely. Now that this is stickied, I'll give everyone a grace period of twenty-four hours (until 7:30 PM UTC, 7th) to reorganise their threads and close down any duplicates. After that, I will begin to suspend without warning.

Edit: Time's up. Suspensions begin now.

Update 2: After a talk with Yatterman, two trading threads is now acceptable, as long as they are not identical.

Update 3: Just found a nifty bug(?) on the site that'll let me close the offending threads without officially having any powers on Strades. Feel free to link the threads in future and I'll close them too.

Update 4: As some may already know, my activity will drop massively as of right now. I'll still be dealing with SteamTrades stuff whenever I can, but expect me to be a little slow on it.

ivanbdm (+38/-0) (2 years ago)

so, is this the official reporting thread?

For the spam, sure, why not? I'm not handling scam reports, I don't have the experience or the free time necessary to deal with those properly.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago*)

'Do not open multiple threads for the same thing' - so opening 9000+ threads is okay if you just make each about a different game you're offering? Doesn't seem right. On the other hand it sometimes makes it easier to find offers you're looking for...

Gamekiller48 (+104/-0)

(2 years ago)

Okay, my mistake, I'll clarify.

Edit: How's that wording?

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago*)

Shakespeare couldn't do it better ;D

Gamekiller48 (+104/-0)

(2 years ago)

Where is Yatterman? Where do we report scam reports?

godfathercr (+15/-0)

(2 years ago)

cher pas

WoDer (+0/-0)

(1 year ago)

OllieD (+105/-1) (2 years ago)

This annoys me.
I also dislike people who make 5 threads as they have 5 things to trade.
Then they bump those multiple threads. They should just bundle it into one thread like the rest of us.

I KNOW RIGHT IT IS REALLY ANNOYING! JUST BUNDLLE IT LOL

ThatOneFork (+0/-0)

(1 year ago)

FrozenBlade (+396/-1) (2 years ago)

is there a set limit on the number of threads a user can have open?

Preferably one trading thread open at a time. Other threads, such as PSAs or scammer warnings, go for it.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago*)

ok. i've normally had like 3 open, but i'll try to remember to keep it to one. EDIT: to 2 :P Thanks for doing this :)

FrozenBlade (+396/-1)

(2 years ago*)

How can I find my opened threads? I wanna close one, but I can't find it. I started to bookmarking it...

SalisMan (+1/-0)

(1 year ago)

same problem/question

doomer (+33/-0)

(1 year ago)

xboxer (+354/-2) (2 years ago)

I do know of someone who bumps his thread every few minutes.

Buzer (+29/-0) (2 years ago)

about time

MisterXYZ (+263/-0) (2 years ago)

Finally something's being done, I've had only one thread open since I started trading over 4 months ago, and that' the way it should be. I just opened up a second for a specific reason yesterday, but that will most likely be closed soon anyway (more of a favor thread than a trading thread). I bump my thread, check the forum, and see that right after I bump my single thread, someone bumps 7+ of his own which already pushed mine out of view. 14-18 minutes on the front page because of this is insane...

Down to one now, can't wait to see the reactions of people with 3+ threads, either it'll give more screen time to those of us with one or give us less competition when people don't listen and get banned ;)

MisterXYZ (+263/-0)

(2 years ago)

I have my main thread that I close after 100 comments(I hate clicking to pages to find the last comment) and my giveaway thread that I close after what I'm giving away is gone :)

elCaminaTor (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

lludde (+25/-0) (2 years ago)

Sticky maybe?

I'll ask cg about it.

Edit: Stickied.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago*)

Can I ask you how to find users/games? This old searcher doesnt work anymore :S

djalma1282 (+180/-1)

(3 months ago*)

Ps1d3r (+115/-0) (2 years ago)

Good job ;) (if you remember me, i'm not a hater ;) )

You should make this one sticky.

Cheers

BosJ32 (+37/-2) (2 years ago)

sticky jade please.. that suspension was scary for trying to make an honest tradeing,lol..

Sorry for the scare, Bos, but I want to give people warning in cases like yours, where it's a bunch of different trades (I just suspend for duplicate threads), but I also need to make a full stand and just say no to the whole thing.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

I respect that just a bit taken aback. im tired of seeing "polls" and off topic as well. Wish there was a place to report scammers etc as well. Im hoping i get no offers,lol.. i have 3 active threads and i just picked up a new game around 4 am and rather scroll and find one of my old ones i took the lazy route. I am not going to pretend like i dont make a couple or bump because im fighting some that spam and re-bump as well so in the end i guess the fix all is this pretty much.

we still brothers from another mother? lol, thnx 4 the heads up

BosJ32 (+37/-2)

(2 years ago*)

zombiepetr (+174/-0) (2 years ago)

So, how is it then? You wrote me "Please close all but one trading thread or be suspended."

But I had only 2 threads - for different things... one for keys and one for tradables. (I closed one, now I have only one)

Can I have two topics for two different offers?

(sorry for my english)

Hey, zombiepetr. Please stick to one thread at a time. If you need to mark what's a key and what's a tradeable, please group them separately in the same post.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

No problem :) I didnt know, that it is bad. But I like it, forum will be clearer.

Good work :)

zombiepetr (+174/-0)

(2 years ago*)

I have two threads too, one main thread with everything on it, and one with only the leftover bundle keys that I'd trade for pretty much anything tradable. Was helpful to keep those two thread separated (and bump them at 10-15 mins interval so as not to pollute the fromt page.) I will keep it down to a single thread if this is what is asked, but it will definitively be an annoyance for me.

Zomby2D (+534/-0)

(2 years ago)

Hopefully, this will just be a temporary stopgap measure and this will be handled appropriately and with a softer touch when ST recieves its own site upgrades, but until then thank you for your co-operation.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

BosJ32 (+37/-2) (2 years ago)

wow that was fast !

hey jade any way we can try and get a scammer report type sticky?

That's a whole other matter. As I mentioned, I'm an SG mod. I personally can't handle scam reporting, that was Yatterman's domain. I do what I can, but without his consent to open a thread again and have me ban everyone needed, I think the thread would sit there, stagnant, without anything happening with the reports. For now, please use Support. We're still getting back up to speed but we're working on both sites to the best of our abilities.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

I know you would if you could, well hopefully everything will be running full speed soon. k ttyl. thnx

BosJ32 (+37/-2)

(2 years ago)

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2) (2 years ago)
GodEmperorofMan (+133/-0) (2 years ago)

I like update 2. :D
I've had some topics (say, 10-15) since I started trading here. some of them are still open now, but I'm not bumping them anymore.
I guess there wouldn't be any problem if I have one general trading topic, and every once in a while create another topic for fast-trading an item, right?

ZothOmmog (+183/-0) (2 years ago)

Oh dear god yes ! THANK YOU <3

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2) (2 years ago)

I love the 2 different threads limit.
Finnaly someone is doing something with this spam and crap.

Kunibert (+47/-3) (2 years ago)

Pls mawwy me jade :3

Seriously, finally someone counteracts!

CasualKilla (+29/-0) (2 years ago)

Houston we have a mod ^^ Welcome, and its about damn time!

Evilshallwin (+10/-0) (2 years ago)

Oh god... Thank you so much Jade. Those threads were truly getting on my nerves and nowhere to report them let them thrive.

Samalot (+238/-2) (2 years ago)

2 thread limit seems like the best idea to me (one for all your games, looking for general offers and another either for keys or for a specific trade that you're after). I've closed down mine now though and have just got one :)

smartman294 (+1/-0) (2 years ago)

Im sure you can just code in something to stop multiple thread also so 2 thread max is fine but more is pushing it?

That was brought up in my discussion with cg last night and a thread cap will probably be implemented when ST gets upgraded properly.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

wojtek858 (+329/-0) (2 years ago*)

2 threads? It will be very hard to find ppl interested in our games in that way... Search bar becomes useless, because we can't include all game names in title and we would have to bump thread all day.

F.e. I got now 1 thread for normal, full games (keys and gifts), 1 for indie bundles and separate games from them and 1 for Desura games. Titles are (still too short for me):

  • [H] Renegade Ops, Flatout, Half-Life 2, Puzzle Agent, Zero Gear, MORE [W] games
  • [H] BUNDLES: Indie Gala7, IG6, IG3, IG2, IGm2, HiB#3, HimB, BeMine3, BaB2 [W] games
  • [H] DESURA games: Auditorium, HiB#3. Postal 2 Complete, Garshap, Noitu, more [W] games

At least give us possibility of searching thread's content (Google can't separate offers from comments) and longer thread titles - it would be especially great to have 2 lines of title, 1 for HAVE and 2nd for WANT. Each could be even 1024 characters long, but most of it default hidden on threads page - it would expand on mouse-over. Ofc search function would see complete titles.

Well, just include the best games.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

Ideally the site would be able to search the content of the OP in addition to the title.

Detruire (+259/-0)

(2 years ago)

I agree with Detruire. It would be nice if the search included the content of the OP in addition to the title. Please try to add this :)

xDIABLOx (+59/-0)

(2 years ago)

Do you really want threads again like:

[H] Fortix [W] CoD
[H] Fortix {W] Paypal
[H] Fortix [W] TF2 Items

All as separate threads? Right now 2 is reasonable until more kinks are worked out with the site.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago)

This example is just a flood and it has nothing to do with my post. It would just look like this:
[H] Fortix [W] CoD, Paypal, TF2 Items
My problem is mostly not enough characters in titles.

wojtek858 (+329/-0)

(2 years ago)

if you have so many games, then just put the amount of games in the title. "[H] 30 games [W] games"...

Kunibert (+47/-3)

(2 years ago)

BigBoyV (+89/-0) (2 years ago*)

This is cool. I've seen some ppl who comment on their threads every 15 secs xD Now all the bumps will end. yay! ^^

Holy shit. Remember who they are?

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

I was exaggerratig a little. :) It was more like every 30-45 secs but that was like several months ago so i dont remember and it was only like two or three dudes who did it.

BigBoyV (+89/-0)

(2 years ago)

smartman294 (+1/-0) (2 years ago)

Does commenting many times to a thread you made within a short time considered spam like you go away for an hour and have like 10 offers and then decline them all within a few minutes is that ok?

Oh, that's fine. Just as long as it's not bumps solely for the sake of bumping.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

psat0ner (+240/-1) (2 years ago)

Looking cleaner already if you ask me. Gj!

ZothOmmog (+183/-0) (2 years ago)

Is it okay to tell people that invisi-bump or have multiple threads about this post instead of reporting them here right away, or would that be considered spamming / playing internet police ?

I don't care either way to be honest. I had mixed results with warnings before this was made sticky.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

allanwarre (+14/-2) (2 years ago)

why not a ticket system like SG?

A dedicated ST support will be implemented with upcoming updates.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2) (2 years ago*)

That's 2 threads.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago)

Yes, but both are for same thing.

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2)

(2 years ago)

Doesn't matter, 2 threads.

e: And looking back, he abandoned his original one and just edited his new one.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago*)

thejadefalcon: "Update 2: After a talk with Yatterman, two trading threads is now acceptable, as long as they are not identical." (emphasis added by me)

That would suggest that it does matter if the two threads are identical, though, wouldn't it ? Or am I reading this wrong ?

ZothOmmog (+183/-0)

(2 years ago)

I never talked to him about the identical thing. Point is, he learned his problem, closed the other thread. Case closed. Doesn't deserve a ban for it.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago)

2 different threads limit, i bet those are okey

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2)

(2 years ago)

Zsegiano (+128/-0) (2 years ago)

lol this is new for me... how can i watch my open threads?

its listed the closed threads too

Zsegiano (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

Well, close a thread when you're done with it. I don't see how difficult it is to count how many you have open at one time.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

maybe someone have 5-6 threads, and some of theese threads already inactive, but not !closed!... how the hell can ppl's searching for his own opened thread's?! because here on steamtrades can't searching for user names... ^^ / its would be the easyest way to detect inactive & not closed threads... or its just no matters if theese are don't BUMP-ed to time to time?!

one more question: there is an admin on this thread?! because of this rule, its 100% accepted?! i know 2 steamtrades admins, Yatterman and Lokonopa, i think we needed a fully list of admins from steamtrades, because of impersonating situations..

Zsegiano (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

It's ok if you have 5-6 inactive threads. As long as they are actively being bumped.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago)

I started tagging my threads.

notnsane (+166/-0)

(2 years ago)

ZothOmmog (+183/-0) (2 years ago)

Thanks for the report.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

9415hansen (+23/-0) (2 years ago*)

User: hp79

  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/52Ys6/h-lara-croft-and-the-guardian-of-light-fable-the-lost-chapters-w-offer
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/RChFA/htime-gentlemen-and-ben-there-double-pack-indie-gala-v-urlkeys-woffer-anything
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/IKe91/h-avernum-the-second-trilogy-456-key-w-offers
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/mTW3e/hpatricians-merchants-pack-contains-darkstar-one-patrician-iii-the-great-art-race-woffers
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/xeeK9/h-payday-the-heist-key-w-offer-operation-flashpoint-dragon-rising
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/vHkZs/h-cc3-tiberium-wars-kanes-wrath-w-offer
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/QcafQ/h-wh-40k-dawn-of-war-platinum-w-offer-ofp-dragon-rising
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/MiAOn/hkanelynch-2-supcom-2-crusader-kings-ii-victoria-ii-sword-of-the-stars-ii-keys-w-offer
  • http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/0Xjlg/h-sc-conviction-cc-twkw-mow-ch-bioshock-2-binary-domain-and-more-tradables-w-offer

They were the first to be suspended.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

ok, I had not seen.

9415hansen (+23/-0)

(2 years ago)

barbasolmonk (+73/-0) (2 years ago)

Is it going to be possible to be able to see what threads you have open? I think I have many old ones that I would like to close.

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2) (2 years ago*)

Suspended, 14 days.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

MegaGiga (+103/-1) (2 years ago)

Jade you dared to set foot in the bog that is steamtrades? Huehue there's hope for this place yet.

Hopefully he can make a difference before ST kills him in his sleep :/

MisterXYZ (+263/-0)

(2 years ago)

lol

elCaminaTor (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

Nibelhim (+92/-0) (2 years ago)

Are you suspending the fake rep ppl also?

He already suspended them all permanently.

Yatterman (+78/-1)

(2 years ago)

What Yatterman said. Any that I know about were dealt with for good a few days back.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

nice :)

elCaminaTor (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

xboxer (+354/-2) (2 years ago)

Why don't you just ask CG to have a 2 thread limit integrated into the system? If the limit is reached and you want a new thread, you need to close an exsting one first.

If they bypass this rule by locking and creating threads every 5 minutes just ban them.

Saves the trouble of hunting for those threads.

kzwen is correct. Upgrades are planned, but SG is the focus right now. Almost done though, so hopefully ST will get back in the spotlight soon.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

never left the spotlight bro, just got a few little cockroaches crawling out of the dark...

elCaminaTor (+128/-0)

(2 years ago)

kzwen (+389/-0) (2 years ago)

Just dug through the forum, found 2 of my old threads which I forgot to close, now I just have 2 active threads. Hopefully I didn't miss any.
@xboxer I think integrating that requires some time which I doubt cg has to spare now as he is busy with steamgifts stuff.

DreadPirateR (+254/-0) (2 years ago*)

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/dJPpO/h-firefall-closed-beta-keys-w-any-offers

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/iN0hz/h-lots-of-keys-beta-keys-w-smnc-beta-gifts-for-collection

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/eOrwa/h-payday-the-heist-alan-wake-shadowgrounds-w-offers-paypal

MrBody all just bumped to the front page

Haters Gonna Hate

MrBoDy (+62/-0)

(2 years ago*)

So you knew about this thread yet you break new rules? Thats not good behavior...

C0rnr4g3 (+247/-2)

(2 years ago*)

No, saw this thread just when I replied to him, didn`t know about this :) And I said that because he needs some glasses, there are 3 different threads.

MrBoDy (+62/-0)

(2 years ago)

Could you please read again OP?
@Down - there is no need to call anybody stupid

sepang (+138/-0)

(2 years ago*)

I know this guy is stupid where does he think he read its OK to have 3 threads lol, i guess he should be telling himself to read ha :D

DreadPirateR (+254/-0)

(2 years ago)

You need to learn some english and get some manners, boy.

MrBoDy (+62/-0)

(2 years ago)

what english do i need to learn ? how you read 3 is ok when it is 2 ? maybe its you who needs to brush up kid

@sepang i know but when you read this guys responses to being told its only 2 threads you would think the same :)

DreadPirateR (+254/-0)

(2 years ago*)

Cool it, you two.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

DreadPirateR (+254/-0) (2 years ago)

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/ecNRA/hx2-csgoarma-2-co-crysis-2-me-woffers-aaa-games-buds-more-games-inside

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/vCNFp/hlist-inside-winside-or-offers

IamProDotA2 2 threads for cs:go just bumped to the front page

Different enough that I'll allow it.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago)

DreadPirateR (+254/-0) (2 years ago)

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/wNbnJ/h-tom-clancys-ghost-recon-future-soldier-w-offers

http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/nGn8v/htc-ghost-recon-future-soldierborderlands-goty-nfshp-darkness-ii-woffers

SchackaL 2 threads for future soldier just bumped to the front page

Warned. I'll give him a bit.

Edit: Two more threads found, suspended.

thejadefalcon (+98/-1)

(2 years ago*)